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		Omega Help Area => Omega Electrical and Audio Help => Topic started by: dan-eboy on 06 February 2012, 21:56:31
		
			
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				Hi having a few issues with my ignition system, and might understand more if I knew exactly how it works.
 
 For this example lets say it's a coil pack for a 6 cylinder engine and there are 4 wires plugged in. The coil pack works in groups on cylinders 1/4, 2/5, 3/6.  I know 1 wire is a constant 12V feed but what are the other 3? Are they a pulse signal to tell each group when to spark (so like a switch which turns on the 12V feed to each group)?  Or am i completely wrong?  Thanks, Dan
 
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				Hi having a few issues with my ignition system, and might understand more if I knew exactly how it works. .....
 
 
 What 'issues'' are you having? Coil pack generally work or they don't, if you replace it, try to dig deep & buy OE because generic often fail.  :y :y
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				I already have replaced it, along with leads and plugs, I have a misfire still, just really wanna know how it works so i can work out what else it could possibly be?
			
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				 ...... work out what else it could possibly be?
 
 
 crank sensor?  :-\
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				It's possible i guess but theres no spark on 3 and 6 which leads me to think it might be ecu (as coil pack is new) or a wire (if it works in the way i think it does.
 
 How easy is it to change the crank sensor?
 
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				It's possible i guess but theres no spark on 3 and 6 which leads me to think it might be ecu (as coil pack is new) or a wire (if it works in the way i think it does.
 
 How easy is it to change the crank sensor?
 
 
 http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90573.0  This might help  :y
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 http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90573.0  This might help  :y
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 Nice one i know where it is now, But does it have a plug to disconnect, doesn't look like it from the picture?
 
 Also i'm still curious as to how a dis pack works - 'I like to know how something works not just how to fix it'!
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 But does it have a plug to disconnect, doesn't look like it from the picture?
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 http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90552.0
 
 it ain't hard wired to the loom  ;) ;) :y
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 Also i'm still curious as to how a dis pack works - 'I like to know how something works not just how to fix it'!
 
 
 Mark DTM will probably give a detailed description of current in one coil being cut inducing current in another, but it's far too many moons since I've done any theory in electrickery  ;) ;) ;) ;)
 sometimes you need to just accept that some things work because they do  ;D ;D ;D :y
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				Quote from MDTM
 The coil works by energising a primary winding, this in turn effectively 'stores' energy within the magnetic core of the transformer.
 When the current to the primary is removed, this stored energy induces a voltage in the secondary which fires the high voltage through the plugs.
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				Yeah i only learnt electric stuff as i go along but can understand most things after reading a couple of times!  I really just want to know if it's like i think.  The 1 live wire supplies the current which builds up in 'transformer type things' inside the coil pack, and the other 3 wires send a signal in sequence to 'let out' the current into the HT leads.  Would make sense as there are 4 wires?  But then again I might have it all wrong!  ???
			
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				Quote from MDTM
 The coil works by energising a primary winding, this in turn effectively 'stores' energy within the magnetic core of the transformer.
 When the current to the primary is removed, this stored energy induces a voltage in the secondary which fires the high voltage through the plugs.
 
 
 I was nearly there then Rob ......... something must've stuck somewhere  ;D ;D
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				Nearly but not quite Andy. Should use a decent "search" facility ;)
			
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				Quote from MDTM
 The coil works by energising a primary winding, this in turn effectively 'stores' energy within the magnetic core of the transformer.
 When the current to the primary is removed, this stored energy induces a voltage in the secondary which fires the high voltage through the plugs.
 
 
 So am I right?  Each one of the other 3 wires is a 'switch' (for lack of better word) to 'release' the current into each set of 2 leads?  I guess this is a pulse as opposed to a constant current? so not really measurable with a multimeter.
 
 Please excuse my lack of terminology my electronics is a bit rusty!
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				Yeah i only learnt electric stuff as i go along but can understand most things after reading a couple of times!  I really just want to know if it's like i think.  The 1 live wire supplies the current which builds up in 'transformer type things' inside the coil pack, and the other 3 wires send a signal in sequence to 'let out' the current into the HT leads.  Would make sense as there are 4 wires?  But then again I might have it all wrong!  ???
 
 
 Compared to days of olde, when cars had a single dizzy there was only one LT circuit, as you say there are 3 coils within the coil pack with 3 LT circuits so it sounds reasonable that the 3 other wires are part of the 3 LT circuits with a single shared 12volt supply.  :y :y :y
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				Nearly but not quite Andy. Should use a decent "search" facility ;)
 
 
 I used the old fashioned memory search ..................  ::) ::) ::)
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				Cool thanks for the help guys, and BTW andy you have way too much time on your hands - how many thousand posts!  :y
			
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				.........., and BTW andy you have way too much time on your hands - how many thousand posts!  :y
 
 
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 In my defence there are those with even more time on their hands .........  ::) ::) ::) And I've been here for a looong time!  ;)