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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: zirk on 07 February 2012, 16:58:09
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Rumor has it the latest Nokia Belle will available for download tomorrow for late Nokia Symbian phones, only months after their Anna release, supposedly bringing their OS closer to the iPhone and Android (yea right) and a promise from Nokia for updates and support till at least 2016.
Their not giving up are they!
Wasn't keen on the Anna update mainly cos it turned my E7 into a brick for a few days, that said it is a good phone, if not a bit confused, and I like the slide out qwerty pad and the free Sat Nav and speed camera updates.
Anyone going to bother to upgrade?
Chris.
ps, I'll let you turn your phone into a brick, before I do mine.
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ps, I'll let you turn your phone into a brick, before I do mine.
Never mind Zee, I hear it grows on you. :y :-*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_KB0V5dzY
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always will have a go - so far I have a good experience with Nokia and have never struggled with their upgrades particuarly, although some used to be very slow in the past.
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ps, I'll let you turn your phone into a brick, before I do mine.
Never mind Zee, I hear it grows on you. :y :-*
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T_KB0V5dzY
;D ;D ;D :y, its not funny though I will probably end up like that by the end of the week, ;)
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my N8 product code is not scheduled for release as yet although a lot of N8 codes are already done - maybe tomorrow as they are working on the prouct codes all the time.
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my N8 product code is not scheduled for release as yet although a lot of N8 codes are already done - maybe tomorrow as they are working on the prouct codes all the time.
As far as I know, Belle will update from sratch, even if the phone has no updates from the old Symbian 60?
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no I mean - there is a whole list of product codes (not model numbers) which are ready for Belle and mine is as yet not one of them -
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no I mean - there is a whole list of product codes (not model numbers) which are ready for Belle and mine is as yet not one of them -
Gotcha, in that case your way ahead of me on that one.
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I don't care what fat Pasty says. Symbian was a far more capable os than cripples os. It may have been a bit involved but it was far more complete in functions between applications. Cut and paste, predictive text, picking phone numbers out of web pages, and some other stuff I can't recall ATM.
However, even just looking at their ads, it's clear they've still learnt bog all from their apple nightmare.
Or have they...? They need to sort it out. Competition is good for consumers. :)
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I don't care what fat Pasty says. Symbian was a far more capable os than cripples os. It may have been a bit involved but it was far more complete in functions between applications. Cut and paste, predictive text, picking phone numbers out of web pages, and some other stuff I can't recall ATM.
However, even just looking at their ads, it's clear they've still learnt bog all from their apple nightmare.
Or have they...? They need to sort it out. Competition is good for consumers. :)
Tend to agree with you there Chris, Symbian in its final platform was quiet stable, Anna pretty much sorted the bugs for higher processer late phone with more Ram, think Nokia are now taking a backward step from anoucing its all Win Mob or nothing and have now committed to getting belle and its next update later this year to compete with Apple and Google, lets face it they have the resources.
Problem is their trying to put the cherry on the a dead cake, mainly due to the outside App developers losing faith on a so called dead platform, Nokia could make it happen if they put their heart to it a few years back but alias i think it may be a bit late, shame really as they did make a half decent phone.
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my experience of more recent Nokia handsets, is they really have still yet to get a nice touch screen device. Nokia Symbian phones are just shite to use, so clunky, very unresponsive & very frustrating to use.
Its a shame as they are more capable, such as the alarm still working when you power off the phone!
I used use Symbian S60 in anger with tomtom + bluetooth GPS extra, downloaded maps for USA, very useful to have when I drove there a few times, way before times of iPhone.
Just a shame handsets were crap, the Lumia is quite nice and I do like Windows on it, its very different to Android iOS, and it works very well I think
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Nokia used to make some really nice handsets and, for those still stuck in 2005, they probably still do.. The whole smartphone thing seems to have eluded them, though.
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Ah, yes, Nokia and touch screens. The n900 total nightmare.
The fact the e7 has a flip out qwerty keyboard tells me they still haven't mastered these new fangled touch screen thingamy jigs. I mean why have both? A query keyboard is WAY to small in a mobile device, and can only be an extra cost best spent getting a touch key board to work correctly...? No?
The moment we have a landscape interface, it instantly becomes a two hands only device.
Yes that's that decided, thanks for reminding me Tunnie.
Nokia? NO THANK YOU. The Muppets.
Touch screens. Not all good, tbh. I mean, the old traditional text keyboard with three letters per key etc. I didn't even need to look at the screen to type with one hand....
But at least the crapple does work. It has yet to crash. Not even once. No lost text pages with half written posts lost in the eather. Does my rather nut that does.
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Well downloaded Belle, quiet tidy first thoughts, with much neater icon arrangements, webs as lot quicker, screens a lot better can actually use the two finger iphone method for zooming etc, use to have dig both thumb nails in the screen before.
The bit that really won me over was the free Microsoft Pack addition, so can now open and edit my Word and Excel files, it opened a Word file (3mb, with lots of pictures and page setup macros) instantly, made some changes, saved then, chucked back on the PC, perfect, really impressed with that.
Overall thoughts, pretty good, there getting there, well for me anyway as Im still sitting on the fence trying to work out which way to swing, Win Mobile or Andriod, probably never will be iPhone, as I need decent camera, MS Docs and the need for web speed HPDPA or better in my line of work.
;)
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iOS is out of your using microsoft office type stuff, I would have thought?
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iOS is out of your using microsoft office type stuff, I would have thought?
Never owned a iPhone Chris but everyone I know who has one says using MS Apps are a bit touch and go, thats not say I cant be swung over.
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Also updated my Nokia X7 to Symbian Belle yesterday and I must say I'm very impressed. The phone seems much more responsive than it used to. It feels almost Androidish in the way it works now. Really rather like it!
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Symbian, in its day, was a decent OS. Still is, to be honest.
It fell over because it was a general (ish) purpose OS, and never really had a front end/UI. That kept a lot of manaufacturers away from making consumer devices for it, leaving pretty much only Nokia. Nokia had, Sony style, been resting on its laurels for so long, it took its eye off the ball, and wasted too much time and effort coming up with idealistic replacements, where as what it needed was a better UI on Symbian. Then the in-fighting started, then it all went wrong.
The likes of the N95 was well behind the competition for smartphones upon its launch, and only sold well because, again Sony style, some would only consider Nokia. Gay. The N95 wasn't a bad phone, most of what it cleaned to do, it did OK, some it did well. But it was clunky to use, non intuitive to non Symbian users, and was a bit buggy early on. Around the same time, I used a Windows 2003 phone, and it was a breath of fresh air in comparison (but not without its own fundamental flaws). Windows improved, Symbian stagnated, then along came Apple, which was a rule changer.
Where are we now?
Symbian is a has-been
HP/Palm came and went, nobody wants webOS
Gooseberry looks to be a thing of the past, rightly so, they haven't kept pace, and now their prime market is dumping them fast
MS are toying with dumping WinCE (good!!) and moving to an NT based kernel, probably the Windows 8 one
Apple are still probably leading innovation around user interface, and you have to admire the stability
Google are selling more than all the others put together, much to MS's delight $, but seemingly always playing catch-up to imitate Apple
What do I use now? I've been using my current iPhone for about 2yrs, no plans to change it. Ironically, it still talks to Microsoft's email system far better than Windows phones I've tried :o
What would I buy if I broke mine tomorrow? Hmmm, not much choice for my needs. Android doesn't have a good email client for anything, and email is critical to me, so would probably currently be another gayPhone. Which saddens me.
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I hav'nt got the first idea what you are all talking about. I'm a year overdue for a free upgrade & still using my Nokia 6301. Touchscreen phones scare me. I would'nt know where to start. I don't want to go on line with a phone, too small & fiddly...(i don't even like my lappie, that's too small!!!) I posted on here ages ago with a list of free handsets i could have but still hav'nt got a new one!!!!!! ::)
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If anybody has downloaded Belle, a nice app I can recommend to add on to it is Nokia Car Mode, needs to be downloaded separately (Free). Has 3 simple functions in one app, Phone, Sat Nav and Music, all with big clean buttons for simple touch use whilst on the move.
Its also works as Mirrorlink, a protocol that mirrors your Car Mode App on a compatible HU, not that were going see many of them for a while yet.
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If anybody has downloaded Belle, a nice app I can recommend to add on to it is Nokia Car Mode, needs to be downloaded separately (Free). Has 3 simple functions in one app, Phone, Sat Nav and Music, all with big clean buttons for simple touch use whilst on the move.
Its also works as Mirrorlink, a protocol that mirrors your Car Mode App on a compatible HU, not that were going see many of them for a while yet.
Nice one, just downloaded that. I use my phone for music in the car and leave it by the gear stick under the ash tray.
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Belle upgrade for Orange supplied phones is not yet available
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Question from the floor. I've got a Nokia X7 and at the top of the screen next to the battery gauge and signal, there's a 1 slap bang in the middle of the bar. I can't find out what it is, Googled for it, tried to click on it and everything but its just there. Doesn't do anything. Nothing in the outbox waiting to go or inbox or anything. Stumped! Any ideas guys?
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Belle upgrade for Orange supplied phones is not yet available
Its a Globle update, so cant see any reason why it wouldn't work on a Orange mobile.
Do you use Nokia Ovi, which is not called Ovi any more, if not download to your PC then update it, over 300 mb, conect phone and it will guide you though the Belle update.
Needs to be done on the PC, failing that search for a seperate download called Nokia updater and again update that to the lastest version, seem to remember that will only work through a wifi connection.
Chris.
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Question from the floor. I've got a Nokia X7 and at the top of the screen next to the battery gauge and signal, there's a 1 slap bang in the middle of the bar. I can't find out what it is, Googled for it, tried to click on it and everything but its just there. Doesn't do anything. Nothing in the outbox waiting to go or inbox or anything. Stumped! Any ideas guys?
What OS are you running, Anna, Belle, or is it one of those Win 7 Mob?
If its Anna or Belle, could be Bluetooth toggle, looks like a squashed up Bluetooth symble that could be mistaken for a 1 or I. :)
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Belle upgrade for Orange supplied phones is not yet available
Its a Globle update, so cant see any reason why it wouldn't work on a Orange mobile.
Do you use Nokia Ovi, which is not called Ovi any more, if not download to your PC then update it, over 300 mb, conect phone and it will guide you though the Belle update.
Needs to be done on the PC, failing that search for a seperate download called Nokia updater and again update that to the lastest version, seem to remember that will only work through a wifi connection.
Chris.
I am up to date with Nokia Suite etc but at least for the N8s On orange the Belle upgrade software is still to be done as stated on Nokia site. I can wait.
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Question from the floor. I've got a Nokia X7 and at the top of the screen next to the battery gauge and signal, there's a 1 slap bang in the middle of the bar. I can't find out what it is, Googled for it, tried to click on it and everything but its just there. Doesn't do anything. Nothing in the outbox waiting to go or inbox or anything. Stumped! Any ideas guys?
maybe a picture would be good if the earlier reply did not help you
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If anybody has downloaded Belle, a nice app I can recommend to add on to it is Nokia Car Mode, needs to be downloaded separately (Free). Has 3 simple functions in one app, Phone, Sat Nav and Music, all with big clean buttons for simple touch use whilst on the move.
Its also works as Mirrorlink, a protocol that mirrors your Car Mode App on a compatible HU, not that were going see many of them for a while yet.
Nice one, just downloaded that. I use my phone for music in the car and leave it by the gear stick under the ash tray.
Agreed, its a nice and precise clear App, best part is it does't fall asleep on you, so no more picking the phone up to unlock it. :y