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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Jim on 24 March 2008, 22:04:22
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Follow the link below to see the rates for a 3.2 omega registerd after 01 March 2001 :o
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=20769
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Follow the link below to see the rates for a 3.2 omega registerd after 01 March 2001 :o
ftp://http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/road-tax/?deriv=20769
we did.......2 weeks ago........ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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£455.00 for a year's rent :o
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£455.00 for a year's rent :o
And the price of cheese today...... ;D ;D ;D eh, by eck.....what are we gonna do.
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£455.00 for a year's rent :o
And the price of cheese today...... ;D ;D ;D eh, by eck.....what are we gonna do.
Drive pre-march 2001 omegas :y
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£455.00 for a year's rent :o
And the price of cheese today...... ;D ;D ;D eh, by eck.....what are we gonna do.
Drive pre-march 2001 omegas :y
No, No, No will not ;D ;D
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Makes for depressing reading especially when you look at what it goes up to in 2010, but will we see any benefits from the new hyke? >:( NO. I don't really mind paying for any thing so long as i get value for money.
Just one word;- Arses
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Makes for depressing reading especially when you look at what it goes up to in 2010, but will we see any benefits from the new hyke? >:( NO. I don't really mind paying for any thing so long as i get value for money.
Just one word;- Arses
Big ones at that ;D
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Hmmm wonder what the rate will be if I stick a 3.2 into my late 99 facelift. Just have to wait a while and I can see 3.2s going for bugger all. Could be a nice cheap conversion. ;D
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Makes for depressing reading especially when you look at what it goes up to in 2010, but will we see any benefits from the new hyke? >:( NO. I don't really mind paying for any thing so long as i get value for money.
Just one word;- Arses
Agreed :y
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Makes for depressing reading especially when you look at what it goes up to in 2010, but will we see any benefits from the new hyke? >:( NO. I don't really mind paying for any thing so long as i get value for money.
Just one word;- Arses
Big ones at that ;D
;D ;D
Miggy, how's the head?
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Hmmm wonder what the rate will be if I stick a 3.2 into my late 99 facelift. Just have to wait a while and I can see 3.2s going for bugger all. Could be a nice cheap conversion. ;D
I know that one ;D...........they will charge you once you alter the V5
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Hmmm wonder what the rate will be if I stick a 3.2 into my late 99 facelift. Just have to wait a while and I can see 3.2s going for bugger all. Could be a nice cheap conversion. ;D
Just don't tell the DVLA about the conversion ;)
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Hmmm wonder what the rate will be if I stick a 3.2 into my late 99 facelift. Just have to wait a while and I can see 3.2s going for bugger all. Could be a nice cheap conversion. ;D
I know that one ;D...........they will charge you once you alter the V5
If you tell them :-X
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
Cos i would tell them..... ;D ;D ;D
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
true 3.0, 3.2, 2.5 all look the same
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
You would be in the brown stuff if you had an accident....insurance
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
Cos i would tell them..... ;D ;D ;D
Nobody likes a tell-tale.
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
Cos i would tell them..... ;D ;D ;D
Nobody likes a tell-tale.
na, na, nanana..... ;D ;D ;D
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
They wouldn't unless you gave them the engine #
Don't forget your insurance would be void :-[
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
Cos i would tell them..... ;D ;D ;D
Nobody likes a tell-tale.
na, na, nanana..... ;D ;D ;D
:P :P :P
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
They wouldn't unless you gave them the engine #
Don't forget your insurance would be void :-[
Point is though it would still be a pre 2001 car over 1599cc so the £210 rate not the £440
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
They wouldn't unless you gave them the engine #
Don't forget your insurance would be void :-[
Point is though it would still be a pre 2001 car over 1599cc so the £210 rate not the £440
modified............as you would have to tell your insurance
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Replacement engine from the scrappers bought as a 2.5 how would they know any different?
They wouldn't unless you gave them the engine #
Don't forget your insurance would be void :-[
Point is though it would still be a pre 2001 car over 1599cc so the £210 rate not the £440
Yup, i think you have a point, but i'm :-/ :-/ :-/
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We must be able to stop this theft, time for a revolution????
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it is safe to say that low mileage pre 2001 cars will be worth more than a similar car of a year younger.
the other thing i can see is more of the pre 2001 cars being kept on the road, so replacement engines and gearboxes in cars that would previously been scrapped.
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To clarify, it is the age of the vehicle structure that matters, so a pre-2001 car can have anthing done to it and it will still be regarded as such. It could be stripped to bare metal, sprayed and all the bits from an '04 plate 3.2 bolted on and would still be regarded as a car first used pre-2001 and taxed by engine capacity provided it retains its' original identity.
If it loses its' original identity then you're in trouble.
Driving a pre-2001 car is such an obvious loophole I can't believe it will remain for long.
I also wonder what will happen when people start modifying post-2001 cars. Will it retain its' original CO2 rating? It's hardly feasible to measure individual vehicles so I guess so. Go and buy a Pious and drop a V8 into it! :y
Kevin
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Pre 2001 are vehicles that are now approaching 10 years old and must be a minority of cars on the road. Hence not to much impact on revenue income to the treasury so I don't think they would see it as a big issue. On the other hand not too many votes to lose. I could easily see the >1600cc rate being hiked. This crowd are past their due date IMHO.
I wouldn't have such a problem if they applied it just to new cars or even existing cars when they next change hands (although it would hit resale values), but to apply it retrospectively to the car in your driveway is plain dishonest.
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I wouldn't have such a problem if they applied it just to new cars or even existing cars when they next change hands (although it would hit resale values), but to apply it retrospectively to the car in your driveway is plain dishonest.
Agreed. Especially when previous changes to the banding were NOT applied retrospectively. If their motivation is the environment, they should be looking to discourage the purchase of new cars with high CO2, and the use of cars in general. (and a 1K first year road tax is not going to do that. It will probably be swallowed by the dealer as a sweetener.)
Once the car is on the road, milking it for more road tax is just taxation and can't be dressed up as concern for the environment, etc.
It's a shame the media whipped up such opposition to the rise in fuel duty, tbh, because that seems the obvious answer. Having said that, more taxation is not what this country needs. A clear indicator and some commitment as to what long term plans the government has for transport would be good, and would promote investment in the right areas. Sadly, I suspect this shower has no long term plans, other than to continue to use the motorist as their Cash Cow.
Kevin
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I wouldn't have such a problem if they applied it just to new cars or even existing cars when they next change hands (although it would hit resale values), but to apply it retrospectively to the car in your driveway is plain dishonest.
Agreed. Especially when previous changes to the banding were NOT applied retrospectively. If their motivation is the environment, they should be looking to discourage the purchase of new cars with high CO2, and the use of cars in general. (and a 1K first year road tax is not going to do that. It will probably be swallowed by the dealer as a sweetener.)
Once the car is on the road, milking it for more road tax is just taxation and can't be dressed up as concern for the environment, etc.
It's a shame the media whipped up such opposition to the rise in fuel duty, tbh, because that seems the obvious answer. Having said that, more taxation is not what this country needs. A clear indicator and some commitment as to what long term plans the government has for transport would be good, and would promote investment in the right areas. Sadly, I suspect this shower has no long term plans, other than to continue to use the motorist as their Cash Cow.
Kevin
Darling made it look like he had done the motorist a favour by delaying the 2p rise on fuel. In actual fact due to the rising price of crude oil he has already had a 9p a litre rise in fuel duty and vat over the last 6 months or so.
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guy fawkes had the right idea
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Guess who's Facelift Omega was registered in 2000? ;) :D :D ;D
So if i slot a 6.0 V8 from the Monaro in my megga, it will still be taked the same! ;D ;D
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Guess who's Facelift Omega was registered in 2000? ;) :D :D ;D
So if i slot a 6.0 V8 from the Monaro in my megga, it will still be taked the same! ;D ;D
Actually I don't think so. I am led to believe for emissions purposes it is actually the date of manufacture of the engine and not the year of registration of the car. I believe this was brought in some time ago primarily for kit cars and the like. And it is up to the owner to prove the year of manufacture.
Mike
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Guess who's Facelift Omega was registered in 2000? ;) :D :D ;D
So if i slot a 6.0 V8 from the Monaro in my megga, it will still be taked the same! ;D ;D
Actually I don't think so. I am led to believe for emissions purposes it is actually the date of manufacture of the engine and not the year of registration of the car. I believe this was brought in some time ago primarily for kit cars and the like. And it is up to the owner to prove the year of manufacture.
Mike
Inclined to agree, it's the engine that creates the emissions so would be based on the manufacturers figures for it and it's date of manufacture I would have thought.
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It's whichever is earlier, for MOT emissions, at any rate. In theory you could get a modern car and put a 1940's engine in it, claiming it's now exempt from emissions testing.
CO2 emissions aren't connected with the MOT, however, and aren't only dependant on the engine the car has. Change the weight / aerodynamics of the vehicle and the CO2 will change because it's more dependant on fuel consumption than anything else.
Kevin
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My Tax runs out at the end of May... If I taxed my car for six months then for 12 months via t'internet a week or so before Dec 31st I presume I would get both of those at a pre budget price? :-/
Thoughts please....!
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My Tax runs out at the end of May... If I taxed my car for six months then for 12 months via t'internet a week or so before Dec 31st I presume I would get both of those at a pre budget price? :-/
Thoughts please....!
Yup.
We do haev such a shit government.
The bottom line is the cars already exist and now hes hiking the price. Its not going to help the environemnt one bit, it which actulay do more damage but, will line his pocket with more tax....
My conclusion, its another stealth tax and I suspect it will spread to earlier cars in the next few years.
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New rates effective in March each year so if my tax weren 't already up in January I'd be shifting it to that time of year. :y
I usually miss the increase with my Westfield which runs out 1st April, but they put them up on the 13th this year, and you can only apply for tax from the 15th day of the preceding month. >:(
Kevin
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We must be able to stop this theft, time for a revolution????
We had a chance last election, and nobody would do anything.
In these lean years, taxes need to rise (less corporate tax, which is the big earner). With the way the media are trying to go all green and anti 4x4 (despite most modern 4x4s being no worse than many similar sized cars), non Prius and non G-Whizz drivers will get hit hard.
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Well I cleaned the breathers today so that's got to be a couple of quid off! .....even though they were virtually spotless anyway!
Think I'll be doing that with my tax then.... just be a bugger landing between Christmas and New Year, Post offices will be full of people before Christmas and no doubt if I do it on-line it'll be stuck in a sorting office until the new year... :-/
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thing is, post 2001 omegas are down 2.6 and 3.2, and 2.5/3.0 as pre march 2001
but mine's a late registered 3.0, only registered 16th march 2001, so do i get lucky (bloody doubtful!!)??
i guess my LPG wouldnt make a blind bit of difference either!
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thing is, post 2001 omegas are down 2.6 and 3.2, and 2.5/3.0 as pre march 2001
but mine's a late registered 3.0, only registered 16th march 2001, so do i get lucky (bloody doubtful!!)??
i guess my LPG wouldnt make a blind bit of difference either!
Sadly it's cars registered on or after 1st March 2001 so you're just after the crucial date. :'(
Time to buy shares in Vaseline and K-Y, I'd say. They're going to be raking it in come 2009. ;D
Kevin
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thing is, post 2001 omegas are down 2.6 and 3.2, and 2.5/3.0 as pre march 2001
but mine's a late registered 3.0, only registered 16th march 2001, so do i get lucky (bloody doubtful!!)??
i guess my LPG wouldnt make a blind bit of difference either!
No, mine is a 16th March registered 2.5....
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You know what? My mini-facelifts are looking so much better than the facelifts all of a sudden....
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We must be able to stop this theft, time for a revolution????
We had a chance last election, and nobody would do anything.
In these lean years, taxes need to rise (less corporate tax, which is the big earner). With the way the media are trying to go all green and anti 4x4 (despite most modern 4x4s being no worse than many similar sized cars), non Prius and non G-Whizz drivers will get hit hard.
I did my bit - didn't work!
Mind you I detest the way polititians roll out celebrities to encourage you to vote for their party.
Notice how all the communist party supporters are rich?
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thing is, post 2001 omegas are down 2.6 and 3.2, and 2.5/3.0 as pre march 2001
but mine's a late registered 3.0, only registered 16th march 2001, so do i get lucky (bloody doubtful!!)??
i guess my LPG wouldnt make a blind bit of difference either!
No, mine is a 16th March registered 2.5....
That's late :o
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We must be able to stop this theft, time for a revolution????
We had a chance last election, and nobody would do anything.
In these lean years, taxes need to rise (less corporate tax, which is the big earner). With the way the media are trying to go all green and anti 4x4 (despite most modern 4x4s being no worse than many similar sized cars), non Prius and non G-Whizz drivers will get hit hard.
I did my bit - didn't work!
Mind you I detest the way polititians roll out celebrities to encourage you to vote for their party.
Notice how all the communist party supporters are rich?
Communists? They are more right wing than Maggie!
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My problem is that I am very anti communist so anything this government does tends to annoy me.
I detest restricted short lists, this bunch of tossers brought in woman only short lists because their women candidates were too useless to get a position without one.
If someone is capable they will get there - if women only short lists are so wonderful why is the current communist PM a man?
If you look at the other lot they had no shortlists but they managed to have a woman PM.
I will also say that the other lots most well known gay appears to be the only known one in parliament who doesn't push it.
TBH the best recent politician who never got the PM job AFAIAC was Ken Clark, a rare beast in the form of an MP you could sort of trust.
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We must be able to stop this theft, time for a revolution????
We had a chance last election, and nobody would do anything.
In these lean years, taxes need to rise (less corporate tax, which is the big earner). With the way the media are trying to go all green and anti 4x4 (despite most modern 4x4s being no worse than many similar sized cars), non Prius and non G-Whizz drivers will get hit hard.
I did my bit - didn't work!
Mind you I detest the way polititians roll out celebrities to encourage you to vote for their party.
Notice how all the communist party supporters are rich?
Communists? They are more right wing than Maggie!
Maggie - now she was good at her job like her or hate her
Communism is both extreme left and extreme right policies at the same time.
TBH the current bunch are completely useless, and I do not hold out too much hope for the other lot.
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I reckon we will see the special rate of car purchase tax reappear - like another 5% or 10% like we had in the 1970s
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We must be able to stop this theft, time for a revolution????
We had a chance last election, and nobody would do anything.
In these lean years, taxes need to rise (less corporate tax, which is the big earner). With the way the media are trying to go all green and anti 4x4 (despite most modern 4x4s being no worse than many similar sized cars), non Prius and non G-Whizz drivers will get hit hard.
I did my bit - didn't work!
Mind you I detest the way polititians roll out celebrities to encourage you to vote for their party.
Notice how all the communist party supporters are rich?
Communists? They are more right wing than Maggie!
Maggie - now she was good at her job like her or hate her
Communism is both extreme left and extreme right policies at the same time.
TBH the current bunch are completely useless, and I do not hold out too much hope for the other lot.
Agree :y, though she (like anyone who is in power for too long) became too detached by the mid 80s...
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Maggie - now she was good at her job like her or hate her
She was the type of leader that would only be voted in in times of total desperation as a kill or cure, though. Not the type of "Safe bet" "seems like a nice chap" opposition leaders we are getting at the moment. I suspect things haven't yet got bad enough for a new Maggie to step onto the stage. Hopefully they won't.
TBH the current bunch are completely useless, and I do not hold out too much hope for the other lot.
Too young for a start. Blair has shown that young PMs are dangerous. They have to have a career plan that extends beyond being PM for a decade or so. That means pandering to the EU, because rather off to Brussels is what all politicians do when they have rendered themselves useless at a national level. There are more scary things about to be forced upon us by the EU than the current Labour party could even dream of. :o
Kevin
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My problem is that I am very anti communist so anything this government does tends to annoy me.
I detest restricted short lists, this bunch of tossers brought in woman only short lists because their women candidates were too useless to get a position without one.
If someone is capable they will get there - if women only short lists are so wonderful why is the current communist PM a man?
If you look at the other lot they had no shortlists but they managed to have a woman PM.
I will also say that the other lots most well known gay appears to be the only known one in parliament who doesn't push it.
TBH the best recent politician who never got the PM job AFAIAC was Ken Clark, a rare beast in the form of an MP you could sort of trust.
My local Mp, and a bloody good chap to!
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I reckon we will see the special rate of car purchase tax reappear - like another 5% or 10% like we had in the 1970s
This is a potential consequence of the demise of the UK motor industry. if you look at countries like Denmark, Norway or Ireland (I think) that have never had an automotive industry/lobby, vehicle taxes are astronomic.
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My problem is that I am very anti communist so anything this government does tends to annoy me.
I detest restricted short lists, this bunch of tossers brought in woman only short lists because their women candidates were too useless to get a position without one.
If someone is capable they will get there - if women only short lists are so wonderful why is the current communist PM a man?
If you look at the other lot they had no shortlists but they managed to have a woman PM.
I will also say that the other lots most well known gay appears to be the only known one in parliament who doesn't push it.
TBH the best recent politician who never got the PM job AFAIAC was Ken Clark, a rare beast in the form of an MP you could sort of trust.
My local Mp, and a bloody good chap to!
Ever met him?
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You know what? My mini-facelifts are looking so much better than the facelifts all of a sudden....
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I wonder if we will see a revival in values for the older cars ? and a massive drop in value for newer ones ?
Also what have the wobble box (caravan) fraternity got to say on this issue, or indeed anyone who has tow something.
Mike
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Maggie - now she was good at her job like her or hate her
She was the type of leader that would only be voted in in times of total desperation as a kill or cure, though. Not the type of "Safe bet" "seems like a nice chap" opposition leaders we are getting at the moment. I suspect things haven't yet got bad enough for a new Maggie to step onto the stage. Hopefully they won't
I think things are bad enough to warrant another "Maggie".
The problem is we don't have another Maggie to vote in, more's the pity.
Mike