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Title: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Omega 37 on 21 February 2012, 15:09:39
Well got off the M1 last night, stopped at the lights, pulled away & tractor mode with "check automatic gearbox" warning on :'( :'( :'( :'(
Took the plugs out to find no1 plug had exploded from the centre out!!!!!
This means the electrode & bits of ceramic have gone into the engine & bent the valves???? Is it ruined!??????? How much will it cost to be fixed???????  :-\ :-\ :-\
Thanks Vauxhall crap plugs!!!!!!!!! Wish I'd got the NGK Iridium ones again! 
Cheers Paul
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: tunnie on 21 February 2012, 15:16:44
done 100k's of miles on Vx plugs without issues with our 4 Omegas combined, how old were they?
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: henryd on 21 February 2012, 15:36:54
Well got off the M1 last night, stopped at the lights, pulled away & tractor mode with "check automatic gearbox" warning on :'( :'( :'( :'(
Took the plugs out to find no1 plug had exploded from the centre out!!!!!
This means the electrode & bits of ceramic have gone into the engine & bent the valves???? Is it ruined!??????? How much will it cost to be fixed???????  :-\ :-\ :-\
Thanks Vauxhall crap plugs!!!!!!!!! Wish I'd got the NGK Iridium ones again! 
Cheers Paul

Seems you are not alone with this problem
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=99269.0
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Omega 37 on 21 February 2012, 15:42:02
Tunnie 2 weeks ago, had the NGK Iridiums in since I bought it 2+years ago 30K no probs!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vauxhall say that if I bring it in they will sort the damage under warranty, or charge me £94 to have a look  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: albitz on 21 February 2012, 15:55:39
I woul be looking for a snake scope camera type thing personally.it can be inserted through the plug hole and gives an image on screen of the inside of the cylinder.If you can locate one of those from somewhere you can do an initial inspection for damage without stripping the top end.
If you can see the bits of plug in there,you may be able to fish them out,with luck & patience ?
Something similar to this I would imagine.
http://www.gizmag.com/flexible-snake-scope-camera/15108/
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Omega 37 on 21 February 2012, 16:04:38
Was thinking about that option saw one in screwfix for £150  :y
I am thinking whats the point of looking as the car feels like it's running on 2 cyl's so there must be damage,,,,,,,,,,?????? It takes 2mins for the car to hit 20mpoh :-X
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 February 2012, 16:05:26
vauxhall had to repair the car.. but before as Albs said check with this kind of equipment..
and after legal action time I think.. >:(
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: albitz on 21 February 2012, 16:16:14
Was thinking about that option saw one in screwfix for £150  :y
I am thinking whats the point of looking as the car feels like it's running on 2 cyl's so there must be damage,,,,,,,,,,?????? It takes 2mins for the car to hit 20mpoh :-X
In that case it sounds like damage has already been done.Tell VX your not paying them £90 odd quid to find out what damage has been done though.Why should you ?
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 21 February 2012, 16:19:51
Well got off the M1 last night, stopped at the lights, pulled away & tractor mode with "check automatic gearbox" warning on :'( :'( :'( :'(
Took the plugs out to find no1 plug had exploded from the centre out!!!!!
This means the electrode & bits of ceramic have gone into the engine & bent the valves???? Is it ruined!??????? How much will it cost to be fixed???????  :-\ :-\ :-\
Thanks Vauxhall Bosch crap plugs!!!!!!!!! Wish I'd got the NGK Iridium ones again! 
Cheers Paul

Corrected that for you!  :y
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Elite Pete on 21 February 2012, 16:24:44
I would do a compression test first, its much cheaper ;)
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Omega 37 on 21 February 2012, 19:32:25
It's going to be trailered to vauxhall, see what they say,,,,,,,,,,,,, gutted I have spent 2 grand on that car drives like new was hoping it would last a few years  :-\
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 February 2012, 19:40:12
It's going to be trailered to vauxhall, see what they say,,,,,,,,,,,,, gutted I have spent 2 grand on that car drives like new was hoping it would last a few years  :-\

they have to give you how they find before.. besides , they will try to escape , dont let them..
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Ken T on 21 February 2012, 20:09:40
a cheaper endoscope type thing http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Handeld-USB-Digital-Endoscope-Microscope-Snake-Camera-Free-Driver-Automotive-/270904463003?pt=UK_AudioElectronicsVideo_Video_TelevisionSetTopBoxes&hash=item3f132a0e9b

Bound to be of use afterwards  ;) :D ::) :-*

Ken
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Ken T on 21 February 2012, 20:12:34
Even cheaper http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-USB-Waterproof-Endoscope-Borescope-Snake-Inspection-Camera-5M-/300626735065?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Medical_Equipment_Instruments_ET&hash=item45febfefd9

Ken
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Omega 37 on 23 February 2012, 21:36:20
Well trailered the car to vauxhall lets see what they say. Have bought another MIG to keep me going.
Would be a shame to see mine go a CDX with black leather was a nice combo for me  :-\

Had the car just over 2 years. Recent new pads allround, front discs, battery, MAF & Cam sensor, 4 new springs & dampers, wishbones, droplinks, steering idler, 4 track rod ends last month :'(, exhaust last year, new breather hoses, the car drove like a brand new motor, loved it  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 February 2012, 04:23:26
Twin electrode plugs by any chance :-\ Are they the same as the V6 ones :-\ Perhaps a dodgy batch...
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Omega 37 on 03 March 2012, 16:34:31
 >:(
Well they have charged £95 to tell me that there is no compression in no1 cyl :D :D :D :D
Tell me something I dont know >:(

They now want to take the head off £400 if  they decide that the spark plug was not to blame.
They are not however sending the spark plug off for analysis !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????????

I have told them not to go ahead & that the car will stay there until they tell me what has happened!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Omega 37 on 03 March 2012, 16:35:19
Twin electrode plugs by any chance :-\ Are they the same as the V6 ones :-\ Perhaps a dodgy batch...

yes they were had NGK Iridium's on before.
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: dbug on 03 March 2012, 16:56:26
>:(
Well they have charged £95 to tell me that there is no compression in no1 cyl :D :D :D :D
Tell me something I dont know >:(

They now want to take the head off £400 if  they decide that the spark plug was not to blame.
They are not however sending the spark plug off for analysis !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????????

I have told them not to go ahead & that the car will stay there until they tell me what has happened!!!!!!!!

Could well be there for ever mate  ;)
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 03 March 2012, 16:58:52
vauxhall had to repair the car.. but before as Albs said check with this kind of equipment..
and after legal action time I think.. >:(

as I said.. they will try their best to avoid you..  :(
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: Omega 37 on 03 March 2012, 18:09:38
I have bought an identical MIG to keep me going  :y
It can stay there forever, no use to me  :( :( :(
I will make them prove that the spark plug did not damaged my engine if it kills me.

Only thing is that there are so many new parts on that car its scary  :-\ was driving like a new car  >:(
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 03 March 2012, 20:21:11
I have bought an identical MIG to keep me going  :y
It can stay there forever, no use to me  :( :( :(
I will make them prove that the spark plug did not damaged my engine if it kills me.

Only thing is that there are so many new parts on that car its scary  :-\ was driving like a new car  >:(

trusting the problem side in these kind of events wont bring any result imo..
 
you had to find an independent expert and a legal report ..  :-\
 
 
Title: Re: Thankyou Vauxhall for ruining my MIG
Post by: dad1uk on 03 March 2012, 20:45:35
When I worked for a coach company we had an oil pump drive fail on a coach. The engine had been reconditioned but the company claimed we had not kept an eye on the oil level.
This company checked the engine and we had the reconditioners over a barrel. - end of argument and they supplied another engine.
They are not cheap but they are good!
http://www.ssandg.co.uk/index.htm