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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 26 February 2012, 22:37:21
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at Gatwick
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9105788/Fireman-Sam-creator-detained-at-airport-for-veil-comment-at-security-gate.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/9105788/Fireman-Sam-creator-detained-at-airport-for-veil-comment-at-security-gate.html)
Are we not allowed to say anything these days?
>:( >:( >:( >:(
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prooves my point this country is a shithole and sinking very quickly one rule for them and loads for us >:( >:(
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Not sure about the theory of one rule for "them" and one for us" ... but it does really get my goat that "racism" only goes one way. Each to their own, live the life they want & all that, but when do you ever hear of a white guy shouting the "racism" card. If if he / she did, would it be credible?
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I can see in the coming yrs this Country being at Civil war as more and more people are waking up to the facts that we are a dumping ground for the rest of the world >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Incidents such as this one inflame tensions. You cannot enforce tolerance by decree; indeed, if you try, you'll likely have the opposite effect. Telling someone that they cannot say something does not stop them thinking it - in fact they are more likely to think it. I, too, see trouble ahead sadly. :(
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In certain countries, if a female non-muslim wishes to enter a religious site, they must wear a head scarf and have their ankles covered etc. So basically, if she wants to enter, as a mark of respect she covers up.
Well, this is our country and our culture, so if you want to come in, show some respect and take off the ninja suit !!! >:(
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I, too, see trouble ahead sadly. :(
Initially we were always told that it was the known "subversives" and law breakers that were looking to to cause conflict by questioning how things are run and that the law abiding had no worries, but now even the law abiding are copping the backlash for having the audacity to "speak out of turn".
I agree that if something doesn't change soon then it's definately going to kick off as it did with the poll tax riots many years ago, and as per usual we'll end up shafted with the bill and the blame for it :(
It wasn't just Orwell who got the date wrong either IMO.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNYqsMIbg0
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I've never been religious but i'm thinking of becoming a Muslim, that way i'll be able to do things, have a say in things and have more rights in a country generations of my family have lived in, fought for, worked for and payed taxes in >:(
Being a white British person makes you a second rate citizen that should shut up and put up in my opinion >:(
Sorry if i've offended anyone (not)
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Sorry if i've offended anyone (not)
I have always been of the opinion that no matter how odius I consider someone's views, they have the right to that opinion regardless of whether I agree or not so long as they are prepared to hear my side.
These days however my attitude is if they aren't prepared to accept that others will have different views then they know where the door is and they can f**k right off.
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seeing as it's not a religious necesscity to wear that getup as there is no mention in the koran,it's just to pander to the insecurites of the males who don't want anybody casting eye's on there wife's they should be made to remove in airport security...i'll try going on holiday in my crash helmet see how far that works
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seeing as it's not a religious necesscity to wear that getup as there is no mention in the koran,it's just to pander to the insecurites of the males who don't want anybody casting eye's on there wife's they should be made to remove in airport security...i'll try going on holiday in my crash helmet see how far that works
You'll be bloody lucky.... you wouldn't get fuel from the petrol station to start with to get to the airport ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I've felt for at least the last 10 years, that as a white, heterosexual, middle aged British male, that the only right I have left is to pay taxes and boy have they piled those on in the last 10 years. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Freedom of speech has long gone from this country, having views on multi-culturalism, your a racist, views on same sex relationship, your homphobic, views on certain religions, a religious bigot. Just keep paying those taxes, so the Nazi thought squad authorities can keep affording to investigate, prosecute and lock you up for having any so un-PC thoughts. >:( >:( >:(
Lucky USA, freedom of speech is enshrined in their constitution. :y
Personally, I think this loss of freedom is making us much less tolerant as a society, the reverse of what the thought Nazis are supposedly trying to achieve.
I can't wait to leave this province of the EUSSR 4th Riech. >:( >:( >:(
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I've felt for at least the last 10 years, that as a white, heterosexual, middle aged British male, that the only right I have left is to pay taxes and boy have they piled those on in the last 10 years. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Freedom of speech has long gone from this country, having views on multi-culturalism, your a racist, views on same sex relationship, your homphobic, views on certain religions, a religious bigot. Just keep paying those taxes, so the Nazi thought squad authorities can keep affording to investigate, prosecute and lock you up for having any so un-PC thoughts. >:( >:( >:(
Lucky USA, freedom of speech is enshrined in their constitution. :y
Personally, I think this loss of freedom is making us much less tolerant as a society, the reverse of what the thought Nazis are supposedly trying to achieve.
I can't wait to leave this province of the EUSSR 4th Riech. >:( >:( >:(
Totally agree....sadly :(
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There was an interview with the guy this morning on R4 - sounded like a right screwup all round IMHO
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Well you now have the English democratic party which is getting big already and taking over ukip. i wonder why
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I've felt for at least the last 10 years, that as a white, heterosexual, middle aged British male, that the only right I have left is to pay taxes and boy have they piled those on in the last 10 years. >:( >:( >:( >:(
Freedom of speech has long gone from this country, having views on multi-culturalism, your a racist, views on same sex relationship, your homphobic, views on certain religions, a religious bigot. Just keep paying those taxes, so the Nazi thought squad authorities can keep affording to investigate, prosecute and lock you up for having any so un-PC thoughts. >:( >:( >:(
Lucky USA, freedom of speech is enshrined in their constitution. :y
Personally, I think this loss of freedom is making us much less tolerant as a society, the reverse of what the thought Nazis are supposedly trying to achieve.
I can't wait to leave this province of the EUSSR 4th Riech. >:( >:( >:(
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got to agree this country is going to the dogs and we need to do something soon or we will be outnumbered and out voted
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This very interesting regarding what happened.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/02/26/first-they-came-for-the-firemen/
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well what can you say lots but then some one will class you as a racsit the majority just keep quite but for how much longer who knows its like walking on eggshells ellite pete summed it up short to the point :y
lets all follow millwall he aint getting away that easy :y
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well what can you say lots but then some one will class you as a racsit the majority just keep quite but for how much longer who knows its like walking on eggshells ellite pete summed it up short to the point :y
lets all follow millwall he aint getting away that easy :y
i hear there's a lot of sheep in new Zealand ;)
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knobing counting sheep :-* :-*
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In certain countries, if a female non-muslim wishes to enter a religious site, they must wear a head scarf and have their ankles covered etc. So basically, if she wants to enter, as a mark of respect she covers up.
Well, this is our country and our culture, so if you want to come in, show some respect and take off the ninja suit !!! >:(
I cannot agree with that more. If you are in Saudi Arabia, women have to cover up, cannot drive etc etc. Why is it that when it comes to the reverse, people are not allowed to say anything.
I for one would feel very insecure if someone wearing a veil went through security and was not identified accurately. Why do you need one rule for someone and a different rule for the other.
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ceratinly all this over the top pc culture is bound to implode at some time and the ill feeling it causes surely must be recognized by those in power before extremism of the opposite side moves from Victor Meldrew grumblings to actual violence. Where has the common-sense and genuine tolerance of others gone? But Rods2 is sadly mistaken if he thinks that the "freedom of speech" seemingly enshrined in the American constitution has really led to a better society over there. I dont doubt that the USA is not so ridden by such ridiculous "pc" brigades as we are, if thats what Rod means, but a cursory look at the increasingly "big brother" measures of the "war on terrorism" and continued issues around civil rights and the ever widening gap between rich and poor all seem to point out that America perhaps is not so much the land of the "free" nor of the "opportunity" it would like to be seen as.
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I have worked all over the middle east/north africa and the muslims will tell you that they will take over our western culture. I was working in Sudan about 10 years and one of our guys had been making his own wine ::). He was eventually caught of course and he was paraded in front of everybody in the camp wearing handcuffs with two guys with AK-47's each side. He was then bundled off into a 4x4 and we never saw him again. We never did find out as our emails and phone calls were monitored or blocked. There should be one culture in the UK and that is BRITISH. I fear that the sh1te here is going to hit the fan sooner than later when our people realize what is going on. :'(
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I have worked all over the middle east/north africa and the muslims will tell you that they will take over our western culture. I was working in Sudan about 10 years and one of our guys had been making his own wine ::) . He was eventually caught of course and he was paraded in front of everybody in the camp wearing handcuffs with two guys with AK-47's each side. He was then bundled off into a 4x4 and we never saw him again. We never did find out as our emails and phone calls were monitored or blocked. There should be one culture in the UK and that is BRITISH. I fear that the sh1te here is going to hit the fan sooner than later when our people realize what is going on. :'(
Nah. The good ole US will nuke 'em before long.
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ceratinly all this over the top pc culture is bound to implode at some time and the ill feeling it causes surely must be recognized by those in power before extremism of the opposite side moves from Victor Meldrew grumblings to actual violence. Where has the common-sense and genuine tolerance of others gone? But Rods2 is sadly mistaken if he thinks that the "freedom of speech" seemingly enshrined in the American constitution has really led to a better society over there. I dont doubt that the USA is not so ridden by such ridiculous "pc" brigades as we are, if thats what Rod means, but a cursory look at the increasingly "big brother" measures of the "war on terrorism" and continued issues around civil rights and the ever widening gap between rich and poor all seem to point out that America perhaps is not so much the land of the "free" nor of the "opportunity" it would like to be seen as.
The PC culture started in America and accelerated during Clinton's time, with his wife, (like Blair's wife) in full support of such policies, but the US supreme court has consistently ruled in favour of freedom of speech over PC correctness. I agree with you the US as a declining Western power has many problems, including mainstream PC correctness like at Christmas they all give "Happy Holidays" cards so as not to offend other religions. Their work place discrimination, sexual harassment rules etc, etc are even more anal than ours when you see some of the law suits brought, not too mention their no fee, no win lawyers culture and the law suits far outstrip anything in this country.
The US has many problems with the current recession highlighting some of them. Clinton scrapping many of the banking regulations, like Brown did, has allowed banks to do many of things that they shouldn't have done and Clinton's policy of MAKING banks lend a percentage of their loans to Ningas sowed the seeds for the current banking and US property crisis.
The US and UK governments have encouraged excessive borrowing and consumption as it makes the GDP growth look good and gives them more tax receipts to waste. When things are going well it is easy to get carried away (and the majority in the US and UK have done this), that it will continue forever and to buy lots of Chinese tat instead of putting money by for that rainy day.
In the US you only get the dole for 99 weeks after that you get nothing. In a prolonged recession like this one, that makes it very, very, tough on on the long term unemployed, but in good times you don't get the problem you have got in this country, where in many cases the long term unemployed are claiming benefits as a lifestyle choice!
The US like all Western societies have got to face the challenge of Asian cheap manufacturing costs and their rapidly increasing education standards and work place skills. Our cost base, tax levels and wages have to drop, and education and work place skills have to rise, but to-date the politicians in all countries have all found it politically easier to keep their heads firmly stuck up their butts on this issue as the electorate aren't going to like the message of falling living standards and cost base (I estimate somewhere between 30 and 50% in the UK) before we are competitive again.