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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: WARNING DISPLAY-BEEPS

« on: 09 November 2006, 23:23:20 »

Its the NCDC2013 and 2015 that do this as the computer functions are controlle via the main unit....its an option that can be turned off though.

Is that the Sat nav and telphone stereos?

i can't remember what my elite has fitted, it has the 4 disc multiplayer, would be interested in knowing how to set this up if poss

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Upgrading Omega sounds whilst retaiing head un

« on: 03 September 2006, 13:23:52 »

i would go with option 1 it isn't as complex as it all seems......

some of themhave built in amps this can make the process easier....

Mine took me a couple of weekends, the worse part for me was wiring in all the speakers from the bose amp that was originally in the tray under the shelf..

Sound quality is really different, clearer and more set up for my taste, next will be the speakers

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Upgrading Omega sounds whilst retaiing head un

« on: 25 August 2006, 15:53:56 »

i have had the same dilemma, i didn't want to lose some of the functionality of the standard fit set up.

I ended up fitting an alpine amp and retaining the bose speakers i have already and fitting 2x12inch subs

this is the start for me, as timne goes on i will upgrade the speakers....

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 24 August 2006, 21:44:09 »

cheers for the info here........

i have the sub controls you are referring to, so it should be fairly straightforward

fortunatly i go out on Dartmoor to do the set up, no nieghbours and the sheep get to hear something different

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 20 August 2006, 16:41:56 »

it all fitted, wired up and kicking......literally as well

I think it now needs to be set up correctly regarding the gain and setting for the HPF and LPF, this is the part i am flying blind.
I understand what the LPF and HPF do, how do i establish what frequency to set them to, and the same for the gain control, how do i know when that is set correctly

One thing i noticed when the volume is turned up to a certain point the sound stops and it screeches, in order to stop it you have to switch off the stereo and start again

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 17 August 2006, 19:14:42 »

thanks for the advice there.

i am now in the process of getting the subs and amp into the back of the car, not a difficult task, but i have one question.

Can i use the current 8 guage to run both of the amps? i thought i saw a few weeks ago a piece of equipment that would allow one wire in and two out, almost like a splitter or should i run a seperate power feed for the Sub amp.

Total for both of the amps only comes to approx 250 watts, and even then i am most likely being generous, the Alpine if i remember is 45/50 watts RMS and the Sub amp is rated at 500 max (not RMS)



cheers for you help so far

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 13 August 2006, 17:43:59 »

The normal way to mount an amp is either horizontally with the fins upwards or vertical with the direction of the fins vertical.  The second method is supposed to be more efficient.

How hot the amp gets will depend on how hard you drive it.  So the size of the air gap around it will depend on this.  But no less than about 1" if possible.

It's not the simplest of plans, so take it step by step and plan carefully and you won't go wrong.  Just prepare for some hassle and a few cuts and bruises!

What's the other amp?  

Remember, you're running 8 gauge cable.  That'll allow about 450Wrms total amp power over 5 metres.

Edit.  And keep asking questions!  

Cheers for the advice there.

Looking at the propsed mounting place and the size of the amp, i doubt i am going to be able to get away with putting the Alpine where the bose amp sat, although i don't run a lot of volume, i may have another look at the cubby hole where you mounted yours, all i would have to do then is re reoute the speaker cables.
the Bose amp does look like it has a remote lead, looking at the loom that goes to the amp i have found 4 black sleeved wires (each one with two wires in) 8 wires (coloured in pairs with the second wire having a tracer) a red, brown and a red/white cable, the red/white being of a smaller guage that the rest of them.
I am going to test the red/white to see if it is powers up only when the stereo powers up, if so i could be in business.

The other amp hasn't arrived yet, i will have to have a look at it, the plan was to run both of the amps from the 8 guage cable, i doubt collectively i am running anywhere near 450W and the puprose of this to make a start on improving the quality of sound not to have big volume.

The main fuse is placed in the fusebox next to the battery, i like to keep things subtle and simple, i have been taking pics so i will post them up once finished

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 13 August 2006, 13:18:01 »

ok that's really cool, got some ideas now....

I have been given a suitable amp for the subs by a friend, so the alpine will replace the bose amp and the other amp drive the subs.

I am going to put the alpine amp where the bose was, now i know that the shelf is a bit smaller than the amp, the plan is to cut the side that is facing the seats, that way when you are looking in the boot it won't look too apparent, will there be enough of a gap there to keep the amp cool?

From there the speakers will be looked at, i can see this being a long process that has lots of questions

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 11 August 2006, 22:00:46 »

hmmmm i take it the amp is not really ideal for the subs then?

The problem i an see is mounting something like that amp without losing a lot of boot space, it's a classic case of want good sound but use the boot a lot.

Friend suggested bolting it to the parcel shelf, but then the heat is sinking right back into the amp and will in time damage the PCB.
Plus running all the cabling to the doors would be a nightmare.....

does the Bose amp deal with all the speakers or just the back ones?

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 11 August 2006, 21:10:56 »

well if i can't follow that then i must be a muppet, simple and easy to follow, cheers chaps

its an MRV-F407, i doubt it will fit in the cubby hole, currently it is attached to the back of the sub box, it has a low and high pass filter as well as gain control

it is stood on its end currently, here are some pics

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 11 August 2006, 16:16:17 »

my stereo knowledge is a bit lacking so please excuse me if i sound like an muppet....

i understand the bit about splicing the wires and the phono leads, if i wanted to run the subs in adiidition to the current set up could i still do that in the way that was described?

Also the amp has a 'remote' connector, i know what it's for but does the bose amp have one as well i can splice from

And in addition i am going to need to run a power lead from the battery, does anyone know how much cable i am going to need and what ampage fuse to get,( i will be running 8 guage wire)

TIA

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 09 August 2006, 14:43:31 »

but the Alpine amp doesn't have speaker in connetors, only RCA's

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 06 August 2006, 15:15:13 »

ohhh, i had completely forgot about the amp on the bose set up, might have to have a look at setting up the subs and Alpine

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 06 August 2006, 09:52:34 »

The standard kit is fine, it's just like The Boy said, it can't deliver the power and depth of bass and sub bass that is required for exciting listening.  

A really good compromise is to fit a sub only, to attempt get back those lost bass frequencies and give a bit more oomph to the whole system.  

If you could hear how different your standard setup can be with a good quality sub, you'll want one!

Fair point, however in order to add the sub would require preouts on the stereo and the standard vaux stuff doesnt have that.

I have a sub box here with 2x12'' subs and an alpine V12 amp, i know that this does make a big difference, but there is no way of hooking it up to the CDC2006

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Facelift ICE options

« on: 05 August 2006, 18:44:01 »

i have the CDR2006 witht he 4 disc multiplayer and bose speakers....

I am not changing a thing, the sound quality is excellent, to add or change anything may mean the dynamics of it change, and i don't want that to happen.

The only thing i have to do is get my ipod to work with it