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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 12 September 2019, 12:25:40 »
Tank, £71.40 from my local, without a cap, but with a sensor.

Ordered it just to save time, 2 working days so should have it early next week.

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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 12 September 2019, 11:06:37 »
Starting to think again it's expansion tank, I checked tonight, found moisture around the rim of the cap at the bottom.

Top of the tank is showing signs of the dye.... (before this tank was clear all over, with nice red GM coolant) the dye has affected the colour.

Again, bubbling sounds around cap, if my ear is close.



Post up another pic without the cap on showing the neck of the tank,as Entwood says cracks are common there :y

Will do, I have inspected it, I could not see any cracks. There were 'whiff's of coolant before new cap.

Expansion tank is prone to minute cracks around the neck where the cap screws on, these can prevent the cap sealing so that it leaks vapour when under pressure, it rarely leaks liquid as there is an "air gap" betwen the surface of the liquid and the cap. However, the loss of pressure reduces the boiling point of the coolant and leads to an increased evaporation of liquid. This could be the reason for your fluid loss.

One way of checking is to run the engine until well hot, ie, the pressure is at its potential maximum, and then to brush a soap solution around the lower edge of the cap, if it is leaking you will get bubbles
.

A new expansion tank and cap is less the £50.00 .... :)
I advised he put a  washing up/water solution in an old pump spray bottle a while ago and check for gas leaking round the tank and hoses.
did you not try that Mr Tunnie  :-\


I did do this, but I did it with engine off, think I need to do it with engine running after it's done a run to/from work. Again it could be so slight that it does not appear. As even over course of an hour, it will drop less than a fingers width in the tank.

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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 12 September 2019, 08:09:20 »
Thanks  :y

Was that £50 from Vauxhall recently? Will call dealer today, but I can’t get trade anymore.

I think the dark bits at top, is evaporating coolant, leaving dye behind.

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Omega General Help / Re: Hand=brake shoe turnbuckle adjuster
« on: 11 September 2019, 22:28:49 »
A bit of practice and you can flick the adjuster, you can soon see which way it goes.

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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 11 September 2019, 19:26:17 »
Starting to think again it's expansion tank, I checked tonight, found moisture around the rim of the cap at the bottom.

Top of the tank is showing signs of the dye.... (before this tank was clear all over, with nice red GM coolant) the dye has affected the colour.

Again, bubbling sounds around cap, if my ear is close.


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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 11 September 2019, 13:51:10 »
Despite what GM shove on the sticker, its not really good for 5 years.  In the same way my XJ shouldn't have to wait 16k for an oil change.  I generally like to change my 5yr coolants at 2-3yrs, and the older 2yr coolant annually (though the Kawasaki was the last vehicle to use that)

Coolant, like oil, starts to degrade from the second it goes in, and I know you're not daft enough to leave your oil in for 20k, as per GM spec.  No offence intended with my earlier remark, but we know from previous posts that the Omega has been at the bottom of the priority pile.  Just offering as a suggestion as to why the normally bombproof 3.2 MLS gasket has failed, *IF* it has.  I'm not yet convinced it has, as a coolant to cylinder failure would often give massive pressure in coolant, and exhaust fumes in coolant bottle.  Personally, I'd be getting my ass in the valley, and pressure the coolant to around 8psi.

As said, not offence intended in any way, and hopefully none has been taken.

There is no sign of high pressure, everything runs great apart from the drop. The starting issue is now clear, if I leave ignition on for ~5seconds before starting. It now starts smooth, with no issues. Given the amount it lost on Monday (half the header tank) I would have expected it to run poorly, but it was smooth as silk all day and was never down on power.

My next job is to get the Plenum off, I would hope the amount of food colour dye I put in would show if coolant bridge/oil cooler plate was at fault.

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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 11 September 2019, 12:51:48 »
But then again I of course neglected my 2.2 with poor serving according to you.

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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 11 September 2019, 12:32:26 »
And? It’s 5 year stuff.

GM state:

5 years or 150,000 miles

Nabbed from GM: *5 Years Longlife Protection. -36°c (Ambient) Winter Protection.

Like anyone here has not gone over the 4 year belt rule, or bent anything else as per rule book. But thanks as always for your condescending approach to me.

Let's also forget I took my 2.2 past 190k on it's original HG, yet many others failed way before this, despite being looked after.

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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 11 September 2019, 12:25:24 »
Given fact I've spent a lot on welding, annual services, inspections on all belts/fluids/plugs, annual oil changes, brake discs and pads last year, I reject poor maintenance that keeps on being directed at me.

 >:(

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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 11 September 2019, 12:17:41 »
HG on 3.2 is MLS, so shouldn't rot with abuse like an older composite.  But given tunnies service schedule, its possible I guess.

But if the coolant isn't going anywhere else, it has to be going inside.



Coolant fully flushed out 5 years ago, as per GM's long-life. Only done ~35k since then, as I average 7k a year. Cambelt serviced as per schedule annual pollen filter and air filter changes so not sure what schedule you refer to.

There is a clear difference on those spark plugs.  :-\

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General Car Chat / Re: Brand New Vauxhall At Cost Price Plus £1
« on: 10 September 2019, 22:10:23 »
6.9% is a joke, you can easily get 2.9% at Tesco for example. £10k loan over 3 years and cars yours at end of it, think that's what I'll be doing.

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General Car Chat / Re: Brand New Vauxhall At Cost Price Plus £1
« on: 10 September 2019, 21:02:00 »
So I put my reg into that trade up offer, had a value of £260 if in good condition. £90 if average.  ;D  :'(

Not a deal for me, as I previously mentioned you must buy on finance, in the small print:

'Trade-in car must be registered in your name for at least 90 days. Only available on 6.9% APR Representative Conditional Sale and Personal Contract Purchase. Other deposit contributions may be available if you do not have a vehicle to trade in. Conditional Sale: 24-60 month term. Personal Contract Purchase (PCP) : 24-48 month term available. '



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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 10 September 2019, 20:46:50 »
As a fellow coolant-weeping-V6 owner I can offer my own experiences. I'm still in the middle of doing this myself, mine is/was producing a warm/burning coolant smell - seemed to be toward the scuttle, but no vapour visible. HBV seemed dry, then again sometimes a smell seemed to come form the front of the engine, too. Hoses seemed fine, nothing visible anywhere.

With plenum, fuel rail and sandwich plate off, a bolt jammed in one hose, and a schrader valve in the other, neighbor's bicycle pump attached and the system built upto about 15-17PSI I saw a weep from the coolant bridge. Saddening as this was only done a year or two ago, using brand new dowty washers. Of course what's been happening is it's leaking water - no smell... but only after a while then being burned/boiled off as it sits on the block. It also looks like the auxilliary coolant pump seal has gone, though I can't rule out 100% the hoses to it are past their best too.

I had confirmed she was not leaking anywhere, simple process of elimination. Hoses=ok, HBV=ok, header tank=ok, cap=ok, My only other thought was the old oil cooler, however being under there not too long ago, again, this was discounted. After all, cant be the coolant bridge, as that's good as new!

Silly thought - if we are looking toward HG... could a cold pressure test as I did aid you? I'm wondering if you can build the system up to pressure, and assuming the system is holding pressure, would having the plugs out help? if there's something delicate that could be prodded inside each combustion chamber as a 'dipstick' (plastic tie wrap?) - if that comes away with even a spec of coolant on it, you've proved your HG's gone. Obviously depending the severity of the leak you may be talking hours/even overnight.

It's a rather heath robinson/left-field idea, but you'll end up taking the plenum etc.. off anyway to do the HG, so nothing to lose, really.  :-\

Might be next stage, but looking at plugs this evening, I don't think that's needed.  :'(

Thanks for input though.  :y

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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 10 September 2019, 20:45:53 »
I took the plugs out today, on drivers bank. As cylinder 5 gave me miss-fire before. Bear in mind these plugs have done less than 1,000 miles....

Pot One, looking nice and clean: (as did pot3)





Pot Five However





It was slightly cleaner on one side.



Is that a hint of red I see?  :-\ (i put red food colour dye in system)

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Omega General Help / Re: Coolant leak
« on: 10 September 2019, 13:38:51 »
No worries - more than welcome any time, whenever I'm here, anyway (which is most of the time!)


Thanks :y I've never used one of these things.   


Just went to check it now, it's dropped a bit on the morning run. Not normally done that, so appears to be getting worse.

Again no indications where it could be, under the car, hbv area etc. Fact Serek at SOS pressure tested it as well, appears to confirm Nick.W's thoughts on HG  :'(

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