hi all managed to find prob took clocks out blown battery bulb replaced it that works fine now checked all earths sound on continuity test so replacing alternator as when i started car no charge comming frm alternator at all this time so im betting on the old alt as packed checked b+ with pos of meter and put neg probe on body of alt while running no charge at all so must be shot anyway cheers guys for all u done to help will tell u the outcome soon...