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Thank you Dave DND for all your help in this matter. A further complication - that I don't need - is that the ebay seller has refused a refund for the defective CDC that I purchased from them. I am extremely reluctant to buy another one in case the same occurs.

An unrelated straw - as in camel's back - is that my new battery has now died... Having not used the car over Christmas (nowhere to go really!) and very little during the snow and ice preceding that I now find that it won't start after probably no more than a fortnight's non-use. Have to say my previous car (Cougar V6) remained unused/unstarted for months at a time - literally - and would always fire up when needed.

Naturally I'm not going to buy another battery but once the weather improves - about February probably - then I'll wash and polish the car and advertise on ebay and a few other classified sites. I don't for one moment expect to make back anywhere near the £1300 I paid so will be embarking upon banger territory no doubt (see below).

These niggles - CD changer, driver's non-heated seat, battery draining when left - are things I don't need and given the cost of the last service and £80 on petrol for a trip to Essex  :( this car has become far more costly than I expected. What I need is a car that needs no work doing and simply needs cleaning and filling with petrol every three months - so it'll probably be a toss up between Lego or Toyota...  ;)

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Dave - these are indeed the numbers I have on both CDCs - my replacement from ebay and the one that came with the car.

I also noticed in FAQ section:

"The units have a two digit ID on them as follows:

FA - Suitable for all radios that do no have Phone function

FC - Only suitable for radios with phone function (i.e. CCRT700) "

Given that I have the latter arrangement, I would be looking for FC code I imagine... however the replacement model has FD as does the original that came with the vehicle and is listed on the CarPass (presumably the original Vx item when new).

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Whats the 10 digit part no of the head unit, and I will have a look

There are lots of numbers on this  ::)

There are these that I can see but nothing seems to be 10-digits:

No: 90 566 805 (rear label)

GM1700X1015985 (stamped into side casing)

S30880-S1000-A100-1 (on Siemens label)

There are also three numbers under barcodes which look way longer than 10 digits.

These are not, I feel, the right numbers - where else should I be looking?

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The last two that I've seen on ebay that would fit mine (with 321 as last set of numbers) have been priced at £40 and £50 plus postage costs (usually a tenner or so).

Bearing in mind if yours works then I'd come down to Northants to fit it into mine and see if we can get the flaming thing to work and if - after 3 changers - then it has to be something else amiss with my system.

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Both the unit that came with my car (presumably the original) and the replacement unit I purchased have had final digits reading 321 of the 10-digit sequence on the side label. Recently I noted on a parts website

http://www.ccpip.org/800/service/partno.html

that their listing for the CCRT700 reads 320 as the final digits.

Is anyone able to clarify this please in case I've bought the wrong model based on an incorrect model being fitted to the car prior to my ownership? The car is a 1999 mini-facelift (on V-plate) 3.0 Elite saloon auto.

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I said I'd report back when time permitted....

Have duly removed screws and head unit, which remained disconnected for about half an hour as it happened. Refitted the replacement CD changer then reconnected the head unit and powered it up.

Entered codes for radio and CD changer as requested on display then switched to CD - got NO MAGAZINE first up as I'd not filled it with CDs at this point. Put half a dozen random ones in and replaced in unit in boot. Repowered up radio and switched to CD and what did we get....

ERROR CDC

Does this now mean I have inadvertently Christmas-crackered the replacement set which was working prior to me getting my hands on it?  :-?

I'm extremely reluctant to buy yet another one (at upwards of £40 a throw) to have a repeat occurrence. Given that I cannot get the changers to work it also means I cannot sell them on as being in working order. Does this point to a more in-depth issue with the audio system and will an auto-electrician or audio specialist be able to accomplish anything that I haven't tried?

Taking it to Vauxhall is a definite no-no given the exorbitant costs involved (and VAT goes up in January  :( ) and I imagine that ripping out the entire audio system and replacing it with aftermarket kit is not going to prove cost-effective. Given these scenarios then I think once the weather improves - July perhaps - it'll be time for a float on ebay....

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This would explain it - have various Allen keys dotted around. Will attempt extraction in daylight (loss of small screws being an added pain I could do without) and when it's a bit more charitable than -8 outside!

Thanks for this - will report back to see if ERROR CDC problem rectified or whether I need a THIRD changer to experiment with...  :-/


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Having tried a few objects, screwdriver, needle etc. the holes into which they are inserted seem to be blocked, i.e. anything that fits the small-diameter hole does not appear to go in further than 2mm (if that). From this observation it doesn't seem possible for any tools to be inserted in order to extract the head unit.

What further action can be taken to remove this unit then short of sledgehammer?

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Thank you for this - do not have any removal tools so will see if ebay has anything specific (rather than generic) for the head unit.

Given that this is, from what you say, a relatively frequent occurrence, how is one supposed to know to remove the h/unit first? Given that computers of the same vintage as the Omega were essentially Plug-and-Play, I would naturally assume - as have many others evidently - that the CDC component could simply be swapped over.

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The numbers on the label were all correct - took me ages to find the right one.

I removed the old one from boot and refitted other one. Had no idea the head unit should be removed - from dash console? that'll be fun!

Is it worth attempting removal (how please?) and then refitting or have I killed the replacement unit?

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Having ERROR CDC on the dash display I was advised here that it was technically up the spout and was best course of action to change the offending unit. I eventually located the right one and it came with a code... this is where I'm having the sense of déja vu  ::)

Fitted new CDC2 and started car and Philips CCRT700, when I switched to CD gave me CD DISTURB - what, mentally?  :P - so duly shut off and went through code setting. When entering code it offered Temporary or Permanent (which was new to me) so entered the correct code as Permanent.

This done, it gave me CD SAFE so redid the code malarkey once more. Next one was NO MAGAZINE - easily remedied as I had not indeed inserted it. Filled with various CDs for it to pick from and inserted magazine. Went to the front once more and selected CD and this time I got the wonderful ERROR CDC code... again...  :(

Does this mean the replacement unit has been duly knackered by me or does it point to something else within the system? My next port of call is an auto electrician who will know infinitely more than I do about audio setups (hopefully!), following that there'll be an Omega Elite sans working CD system on ebay....  >:(

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1. As the snow button increases brightness  - which I must say I haven't noticed despite fiddling tonight in dark with engine running - is this due to another bulb being activated or some clever voltage malarkey with a rheostat or similar?



I was led to believe that the snow mode would only  kick in by pressing the button if the temperature dropped to 3 or below, ie when the ice symbol appeared with the temp.

Don't quote me though :-)


Now that's interesting - this is what the vendor told me, being an experienced Omega owner, and whilst I've no wish for that kind of temperature in October it will be interesting to test later in the year. Although if we have the same amount of snow as last year (in Lincolnshire) we won't be going anywhere much! Will test this theory out and let you know accordingly...

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like an omega pub quiz this  :D

1: no symbol on dash, button gets brighter when active

2: blown bulbs, take off end covers for dash to gain access, 3w mini capless bulbs

3:I drive a proper car (manual) so dont know  ;D ;D

4: yes available at approx £15 a piece, finding one is a different story  :o


do i win a prize???  ;D ;D ;D

I wish I had a prize to offer - will think of something for next time.  :y As a new Omega owner I am extremely impressed with the swiftness of replies and very grateful for answers to what are obviously "newbie questions".

1. As the snow button increases brightness  - which I must say I haven't noticed despite fiddling tonight in dark with engine running - is this due to another bulb being activated or some clever voltage malarkey with a rheostat or similar?

2. Sounds like easy fix for me and apparently butter knives are useful tools for removing vents without damage...

Had so much trouble trying to find a manual with all toys, leather that wasn't a special or an estate.  :(

Could you tell  me what the wheels are on your avatar Omega please? Not looking to change yet as have 4 very good tyres on the standard Elite alloys.

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Many thanks to everyone who responded to my wide-ranging query posted earlier. A lot of minor niggles have been resolved and I must admit I would have liked Vauxhall to have put a Cruise Control indicator light on dash.

A couple of extra issues now I've had time to look around inside more:

1. Snow mode - the snowflake symbol next to the shifter is lit but when pressed should there be an indicator on the dash showing it is active, i.e. like the Sport mode?

2. Centre air vents in dash have instrument illumination for the 0 and 1 markers. The outer ones, at the extreme ends of the dash do not light. Is this the case or have bulbs gone?

3. Very minor - the 'S' on the gear lever button for Sport has worn away. Has anyone renewed/replaced the 'S' and if so how please?

4. Headlamp washers are intact - not tested yet - but one is missing the top of its jet, just an open tube. Are these bits available at all?

Many thanks in advance, everyone's words of wisdom are much appreciated.

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Omega Electrical and Audio Help / Re: Battery
« on: 04 November 2010, 19:15:05 »
I may be experiencing a similar problem - flat battery after a week of non-use but as it was dark and raining when I tried to start the car, haven't delved under bonnet yet.

What I do know however is that the powersounder makes no sound - hazards flash when activated (by alarm) but no deafening noise.

Having read the linked thread above, is it worthwhile disconnecting and taping up the powersounder THEN charging the battery to see if it holds charge before shelling out on new one?  :-?

If it comes to it can people recommend battery make/models for 3.0 Elite that doesn't go out very often please?  ;)

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And if anybody DOES have the numbers to tonight's lottery, please post here....  ;)

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