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What would be the gain in Starmer going? 

As a Conservative, and I cannot believe I am having to say this, but I would sooner Starmer and Labour keep in power to do the "Change" we all wanted after the last Government fiasco, with numerous Tory PM's.  We now need stability, and NOT in the form of the disastrous Tories, or, even worse, the very unproved and dangerous Reform Party, led by the big mouthed, sarcastic and unproved Nigel Farage!

There is so much going on around our Planet, and Starmer has proved himself on the World's stage as a moderate leader, with the very real threat of Putin, China, and, yes, the boastful, bully Trump.

Why throw the baby out with the bathwater?  We must all unite and tackle the terrible main issues left by the Tory Government of 14 years, that the current Conservatives want us to somehow forget.  The Mandelson issue is a mess, and Starmer's support of him was very wrong, but, hey, who doesn't make mistakes?  Even Trump makes those, but is the a clammer to get rid of him over the Epstein disaster in the USA?  His dealings where far worse than the simple matter of Starmer appointing a bad Ambassador!

The media love all this mayhem, and in many ways encourage it.  Ask the average person on a UK street and their worries are primary about the NHS, energy bills, grocery costs, council rates, etc, NOT about the mistake Starmer has made!

Took the INSIGNIcAn't for MOT,  passed with minor advisories 
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Nearside Front Tyre slightly damaged/cracking or perishing (5.2.3 (d) (ii))
Nearside Front anti roll bar link rubber slight deterioration
Magic tree air freshener NOT blocking the driver's view of the road

Hmmmm....those advisories sound worthy of a hundred page thread.

It's got to go back to Vauxhall for a re-call
rear Lower Camber Suspension Control Arm (apparently they crack )
Me and my MOT tester checked ,they look fine , 15 years old
when the arms are replaced i'll have the tracking done and new 'all season tryes' (worth a 100 page thread)
drop links are probably 15 quid the pair ,so i doubt that's worth even posting about   

Took the INSIGNIcAn't for MOT,  passed with minor advisories 
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Nearside Front Tyre slightly damaged/cracking or perishing (5.2.3 (d) (ii))
Nearside Front anti roll bar link rubber slight deterioration
Magic tree air freshener NOT blocking the driver's view of the road

Hmmmm....those advisories sound worthy of a hundred page thread.

To experienced people, some questions may sound daft.  But that's the point of groups like this, to help out those who don't know, or lack the confidence, or simply seek clarification.

Obviously, piss taking is par for the course, unless it's about MOTs and Air Fresheners!

Absolutely right TB

In addition I would add that the older you get the less confidence you have, as by now we understand what can go horribly wrong when you do the wrong thing which costs more money that you cannot afford, and lead to the final day of our Omega, or whatever you are trying to save!

Took the INSIGNIcAn't for MOT,  passed with minor advisories 
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Nearside Front Tyre slightly damaged/cracking or perishing (5.2.3 (d) (ii))
Nearside Front anti roll bar link rubber slight deterioration
Magic tree air freshener NOT blocking the driver's view of the road

Obviously, piss taking is par for the course, unless it's about MOTs and Air Fresheners!

OK, couple more posts and I'll get back in me bunker 

You'd have been better taking some sandwiches and a sleeping bag to A&E.

Was tempted tbh
WAs literally told that by a nurse (customer) yesterday.
Gonna meet my new doctor this week hopefully.
See if I get better service.

You'd have been better taking some sandwiches and a sleeping bag to A&E.

I have a nasty habit of smacking my internal door handles into my stomach / belly button area in passing.
Done it a few times over the years. Normally just squeal like a girl for a few seconds then get on with it.
A few weeks ago, I did it again but this time I must of done some damage because a couple of days later, one side of my abdomen literally started to fill up with fluid under the skin like a water balloon.
That was the Friday and I had to drive to pick up my new (to me) car on the Saturday so Sunday morning i'm on the phone to 111.
To be fair, they wasn't too bad after answering a thousand questions, they booked me into a UTC (Urgent Treatment Centre) for the next day.
Got diagnosed as a abscess and was given a course of antibiotics which did sweet F all.
Back on the phone to my GP this time and was told that because i'm not in pain or have bowel symptoms, its a 1 to 3 weeks wait at least.
Politely explained that something is not right and needs sorting sharpish before I end up in casualty.  She cut me off 
So 111 it is .........  This time I got sent to another UTC where I was actually seen by a actual doctor I think. Couldn't really understand much of what she said 
Anyway we sort of agreed that I need a ultrasound to find out what's happening in there so she wrote a letter to my GP and off I went.
That was a Saturday night so Monday morning, I calls the GP's surgery to be told to sit by my phone.
Well I sat by my phone for nearly 3 days and then rang back to be told its still not urgent 
Back to 111 I go and i'm sent to another UTC and told to sit down and they will try to fit me in for a ultrasound.
After 3 hours i'm sent home because i'm still marked down as non urgent and told to ring my GP.
Range them and told them to stick there service where the sun doesn't shine.
Just joined a husband and wife team near me who have got a great reputation.
Just waiting for the changeover then i'll burden myself on there doorstep and try and get some answers.
Sicknote ran out and i've got no doctor at the moment so went back to work yesterday on light duties.

NHS is a friggin joke
 

So Starmer survived.....  for now. 

Apparently he threatened rebellious Cabinet Ministers that he would go to the Palace to see the King, dissolve Parliament and call a snap election if they didn't row in behind him. 

Within about an hour all of the Cabinet Ministers and a few prominent Labour MPs had posted on X their support for the man who thought it was a good idea to appoint Peter Mandelson, known for years as the Prince of Darkness, who had resigned from ministerial jobs twice in disgrace, and was a well known friend of a notorious convicted nonce as our Ambassador to the USA. 

The Labour party are finished. It's just a matter of time.