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[albitz]

How very dare you besmirch the good name of our greatest ever leader.



 

A lot of sense in Guffers post imo. The U.S has had many stereotypical images stuck to it by the foriegn media,but imo its a country with many wonderful qualities and a hell of a lot going for it.No denying it they can be a bit insular regarding the rest of the world and they do have a habit of electing awful presidents (the current tenant of the whitehouse being a prime example) but we are also in that particular greenhouse,so shouldnt throw too many stones.

[cem_devecioglu]

    I think some of you take comission from gun industry
 
joking aside , do you really think letting everyone to buy them will DECREASE gun crimes ?
 
yes or no  
 
dont be surprised if a 12 year old boy put the gun in your nose and ask for your wallet 

[cem_devecioglu]

How very dare you besmirch the good name of our greatest ever leader.



 

A lot of sense in Guffers post imo. The U.S has had many stereotypical images stuck to it by the foriegn media,but imo its a country with many wonderful qualities and a hell of a lot going for it.No denying it they can be a bit insular regarding the rest of the world and they do have a habit of electing awful presidents (the current tenant of the whitehouse being a prime example) but we are also in that particular greenhouse,so shouldnt throw too many stones.

I really cant understand why and how     
 
however we are not that different  

[albitz]

Striking the right balance is almost impossible Cem.There must be controls and not a free for all,but at the same time we cannot uninvent the gun either.People will always have them.As Guffer and others have said,its not the people who are gun club members and keep their weapons locked securely away when not in use that causes the problem.Its the people who acquire them illegally for malicious purposes who are the problem.We have problems with gun crime in the UK which have got worse since many very strict laws were introduced on use and ownership of guns.
Life for responsible gun owners has become very difficult and restricted,while illegal and dangerous gun use has flourished.

[albitz]

How very dare you besmirch the good name of our greatest ever leader.



 

Like most countries these days Cem,they have a pair of opposing idiots to choose from and the one who has the best media management team usually wins.

A lot of sense in Guffers post imo. The U.S has had many stereotypical images stuck to it by the foriegn media,but imo its a country with many wonderful qualities and a hell of a lot going for it.No denying it they can be a bit insular regarding the rest of the world and they do have a habit of electing awful presidents (the current tenant of the whitehouse being a prime example) but we are also in that particular greenhouse,so shouldnt throw too many stones.

I really cant understand why and how     
 
however we are not that different

Like most countries these days Cem,they have a pair of opposing idiots to choose from and the one who has the best media management team (and often the most money in the fighting fund) usually wins.

[Rods2]

  I think some of you take comission from gun industry
 
joking aside , do you really think letting everyone to buy them will DECREASE gun crimes ?
 
yes or no  
 
dont be surprised if a 12 year old boy put the gun in your nose and ask for your wallet 

You are behind the times cem, in London or Paris and most other big European EU cities a 12 year old Romanian gang member will easily relieve you of your wallet and it is only when you go to pay you will realize it has gone. No gun needed. 

It is a traditional industry which they practice from 2 years old on wards. US security was no match when George Bush jr was shaking crowds hands and his watch was stolen. 

[cem_devecioglu]

seriously talking, in countries where GUNS are PRODUCED and SOLD like aspirin tablets any talk of personal SAFETY is utter boll*x..  if you dont cut the water from the tap you can never stop it.. simples.. then everyone will claim for personal safety , buy one or more and use as they wish.. can you control it ?  NO..
 
we have a saying here "once the demon escapes the bottle , you cant stop it"
 
 
 
 
 
 
     

[Rods2]

Unfortunately a rolled up newspaper can be a deadly weapon when somebody has intent and it is in the wrong hands.

I don't have a problem with the licencing of guns, but from the UKs experience, totally banning them doesn't work it just makes things worse, and deprives responsible gun owners from the pleasure they get from using them responsibly. Anybody in the UK that wants to take up the sport of pistol shooting has to go abroad or be in the police or armed forces. Even if they are a civilian in the UK Olympic team they cannot have a pistol in the UK.

How the balance is struck is up to each country to decide. In Switzerland all males have to go into the army for 12 months, learn to shoot and then keep a rifle and ammunition at home to protect the country if it is invaded. Yet, they do not have a history of major gun crime. Is this due to the military education and training?

[cem_devecioglu]

Unfortunately a rolled up newspaper can be a deadly weapon when somebody has intent and it is in the wrong hands.
 
yep.. but to be precise would you fight with a newspaper when there is AK47 sold few blocks ahead ?

I don't have a problem with the licencing of guns, but from the UKs experience, totally banning them doesn't work it just makes things worse, and deprives responsible gun owners from the pleasure they get from using them responsibly.
 
responsible behaviour can change any moment with fear or anger.. so statistically no ones completely trustable when they have guns     besides civilized persons can have millions of ways to enjoy life.. as  I said guns are for killing..
 
 
Anybody in the UK that wants to take up the sport of pistol shooting has to go abroad or be in the police or armed forces. Even if they are a civilian in the UK Olympic team they cannot have a pistol in the UK.
 
very good..and I wish/hope it will remain as is..

How the balance is struck is up to each country to decide. In Switzerland all males have to go into the army for 12 months, learn to shoot and then keep a rifle and ammunition at home to protect the country if it is invaded.
 
Switzerland ?        as the wars prooved they can never war with anything
 
 Yet, they do not have a history of major gun crime. Is this due to the military education and training?