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The dark side
« on: 01 October 2012, 21:15:29 »

When we had a Jimmy Saville obituary page on OOF many people expressed their unease saying something was not right about him, well you were right. By all accounts he liked to abuse and rape underage girls and used his fame and charity money raising as a shield to keep the media and forces of justice at bay.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9579077/Was-Jimmy-Savile-too-big-a-star-to-challenge.html
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #1 on: 01 October 2012, 21:47:28 »

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Re: The dark side
« Reply #2 on: 01 October 2012, 21:53:45 »

well he cant defend himself now can he . was waiting for some thing about him after he died . it had to be itv  :y :y
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #3 on: 01 October 2012, 21:54:30 »

I heard earlier on the radio ............... why didn't these girls/women come forward before he died to give the chance to defend himself?  :-\ :-\ :-\
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #4 on: 01 October 2012, 21:56:08 »

When we had a Jimmy Saville obituary page on OOF many people expressed their unease saying something was not right about him, well you were right. By all accounts he liked to abuse and rape underage girls and used his fame and charity money raising as a shield to keep the media and forces of justice at bay.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9579077/Was-Jimmy-Savile-too-big-a-star-to-challenge.html

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By ONE unchallenged account. :(

Just 'cos itv are muck raking there is no need to help them.
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #5 on: 01 October 2012, 22:14:30 »

When we had a Jimmy Saville obituary page on OOF many people expressed their unease saying something was not right about him, well you were right. By all accounts he liked to abuse and rape underage girls and used his fame and charity money raising as a shield to keep the media and forces of justice at bay.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9579077/Was-Jimmy-Savile-too-big-a-star-to-challenge.html

INCORRECT

By ONE unchallenged account. :(

Just 'cos itv are muck raking there is no need to help them.

I'm sure yesterday's papers said 5
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #6 on: 01 October 2012, 22:30:49 »

I grew up watching "Jim'll Fix It" and "Top of the Pops" and grew to admire Jimmy's persona - even more when he strived to raise money for charity. When I first heard about this (some months ago) I fervently hoped it was mere muck-raking, but the more I hear, the more I suspect there may be some unpleasant revelations ahead.

By the way, that sound you hear is yet another childhood idol falling off the pedestal. Sad for any "victims", but sad also for those who held him in such high esteem for so long and who may be about to find their esteem misplaced.  :( :( 
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #7 on: 01 October 2012, 22:32:00 »

When we had a Jimmy Saville obituary page on OOF many people expressed their unease saying something was not right about him, well you were right. By all accounts he liked to abuse and rape underage girls and used his fame and charity money raising as a shield to keep the media and forces of justice at bay.  >:( >:( >:( >:(

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9579077/Was-Jimmy-Savile-too-big-a-star-to-challenge.html

INCORRECT

By ONE unchallenged account. :(

Just 'cos itv are muck raking there is no need to help them.

I'm sure yesterday's papers said 5

ITV may have raked up/persuaded 5 .. but the account is purely ITV's .. so that is ONE unchallengend account... :(
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #8 on: 01 October 2012, 22:32:48 »

I've heard about his "so called" links to certain shall we say "characters" in the criminal fraternity in west yorkshire but this side of him has come totally out of the blue for me  :o

It doesn't sound like muck rakeing when somebody of the standing of Ester Ranzen goes infront of a camera to voice her thoughts and concerns about Saville.
Also there are 5 young women who have come forward with very similar tails of him  :(
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #9 on: 01 October 2012, 22:38:21 »

Here it is.

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=95112.0

TB's comment on that thread may explain his relationships with some members........ :D :-X :-X LD told me to say it...... ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #10 on: 01 October 2012, 22:39:16 »

I've heard about his "so called" links to certain shall we say "characters" in the criminal fraternity in west yorkshire but this side of him has come totally out of the blue for me  :o

It doesn't sound like muck rakeing when somebody of the standing of Ester Ranzen goes infront of a camera to voice her thoughts and concerns about Saville.
Also there are 5 young women who have come forward with very similar tails of him  :(

mmm not so "young" methinks ... they are "supposed" to be relating what happened to them in the 1970's ... now, if they were 14 then .. it makes them well into their 50's now .... and I just wonder how much is "memory" or "suggestion" ???

There is a very fine line between fact finding and fact making .. especially when the defendant cannot speak for themselves..... if things were so bad, and the memory so strong .. why wait until he's been dead a year before speaking ?? and why only speak to ITV just as they make a programme ??
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Re: The dark side
« Reply #11 on: 01 October 2012, 22:56:27 »

I understand what you mean nige but imo, something stinks about him.

Just because he is brown bread doesn't mean these rumours and statments are lies. 

During the 70's and 80's, saville was pretty much untouchable in the eyes of the country with one of the most popular shows on at the time and with his charity work.
The power he would have had over the suits at the bbc would have been incredible.
Basicly, he had them by the balls and whatever jimmy wanted, jimmy got if only to keep him sweet and the ratings up.
A classic recipe for abuse of power (which imo is what these kiddie fiddleing scum) are all about  >:(

Maybe just maybe people like Ester Ranzen and the others was scared shitless of him ?
I can see how that may have been  ;)

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Re: The dark side
« Reply #12 on: 01 October 2012, 23:28:47 »

I am not happy in any respect of the media drip feeding information to character assassinate, someone who cannot defend themselves, or be brought to book for the henious crime of child abuse.

So far we have the five accusations from girls who attended the same approved school, who made no allegations at the time. The suspicions of Esther Rantzen, a picture from Top of the Pops of Jimmy Saville with his arm around 14 year old Coleen Nolan, with the age emphasised. Tonight we had some bloke claiming that he saw Saville in a hotel room with a young girl who was 15, 14 , 12 or 10.

Saville was investigated twice for previous allegations, once under police caution but no evidence or insufficient evidence was found.

The documentary has yet to be broadcast, but so far all we have read are unsubstantiated allegations, rumour and the opinions of a few publicity seekers.

Let's face it Saville was an odd ball, even strange, his livestyle was different and for years the media have tried to ruin him. Unmarried, not homosexual, devoted to his mother, raised millions for charity SO something must not be right must it not.

I'm afraid that the only opinion I have must be the old adage of innocent until PROVEN guilty, perhaps we will never know for sure except the media circus have already sullied his reputation. On the other hand if he was a beast of a paedophile and proven to be so then he does not deserve any reputation, he should have his knighthood postumusely removed. It is then unfortunate that he cannot be taken to court and sentenced accordingly.
 

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