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[danzigfan]

.....as it was back in 1986
 http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=sl&client=mv-google&v=mluKmCj_XXw
 
and as it is today
 http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=sl&client=mv-google&v=sW93DamFSOE&fulldescription=1
 
And more to come tomorrow
 

Shi..y times ate coming it seems
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/nov2012/slov-n27.shtml
 

[Johnny English]

.....as it was back in 1986
http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=sl&client=mv-google&v=mluKmCj_XXw
 
and as it is today
 http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=sl&client=mv-google&v=sW93DamFSOE&fulldescription=1
 

Links don't work mate   

And more to come tomorrow
 

Shi..y times ate coming it seems
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/nov2012/slov-n27.shtml

Yess...austerity...hm the best beloved weapon of IMF and Worldbank. Hungary's goverment decided to load the cost of austerity to the banks and other multi company and left the people to hold theirs modest/humble salary. It is not the easiest way seems working though...

[danzigfan]

Strange... ..they work for me....doesn't mattter , anyway..people are rising against the government and demonstraitons were so violently crushed....never happened before, even you compare it with old commy government in all 46 years....(which wasn't comunism at all believe me, I was raised in those times and it wasn't as bad as people in foreign countries think)...it'sad where this all leads to

[Steve B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mluKmCj_XXw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW93DamFSOE

[Rods2]

.....as it was back in 1986
http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=sl&client=mv-google&v=mluKmCj_XXw
 
and as it is today
 http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=sl&client=mv-google&v=sW93DamFSOE&fulldescription=1
 

Links don't work mate   

And more to come tomorrow
 

Shi..y times ate coming it seems
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/nov2012/slov-n27.shtml

Yess...austerity...hm the best beloved weapon of IMF and Worldbank. Hungary's goverment decided to load the cost of austerity to the banks and other multi company and left the people to hold theirs modest/humble salary. It is not the easiest way seems working though...

If my memory serves me correctly, Hungary is one of the countries badly hit by mortgages and loans taken out in Swiss Francs, where the interest rates were lower than in Hungary, but they caught a cold where Swiss Francs are a save haven currency, against the Euro, which has made the Swiss Franc appreciated massively against the Florin.

Your Government sided with the people and set an internal Florin to Swiss Franc exchange rate that people would use to pay the loan and stopped house repossessions.

Your Government got many black marks from the EU for looking after the people rather than their bankster friends. Rest of EU Governments, including the UK, prefer to look after the banksters, especially in Greece, where the bail out funds go straight back to pay off German and French bank loans and bonds held by them to make Greek public debt higher.

Eurozone taxpayers are beginning to realize that the 57% and rising Greek debt belonging to the EFSF, Euro country bi-lateral loans and the ECB will never be paid back. Merkel is trying to kick this can past the autumn 2013 presidential elections, where this is more important than Greek suffering, but French socialist IMF leader is not playing the game correctly, where she would prefer a socialist government in Germany, so Germany falls with France, rather than just France falling with the rest of the PIIGS.

[cem_devecioglu]

Strange... ..they work for me....doesn't mattter , anyway..people are rising against the government and demonstraitons were so violently crushed....never happened before, even you compare it with old commy government in all 46 years....(which wasn't comunism at all believe me, I was raised in those times and it wasn't as bad as people in foreign countries think)...it'sad where this all leads to

trust me I'm not surprised..  people were too much frightened with those horror stories..
 
so the gun cartels could work flat out..  and selected idiots politicians comfortable in their chairs..
 
one day people will understand who is really sucking blood..

[Johnny English]

If my memory serves me correctly, Hungary is one of the countries badly hit by mortgages and loans taken out in Swiss Francs, where the interest rates were lower than in Hungary, but they caught a cold where Swiss Francs are a save haven currency, against the Euro, which has made the Swiss Franc appreciated massively against the Florin.

Your Government sided with the people and set an internal Florin to Swiss Franc exchange rate that people would use to pay the loan and stopped house repossessions.

Your Government got many black marks from the EU for looking after the people rather than their bankster friends. Rest of EU Governments, including the UK, prefer to look after the banksters, especially in Greece, where the bail out funds go straight back to pay off German and French bank loans and bonds held by them to make Greek public debt higher.

Eurozone taxpayers are beginning to realize that the 57% and rising Greek debt belonging to the EFSF, Euro country bi-lateral loans and the ECB will never be paid back. Merkel is trying to kick this can past the autumn 2013 presidential elections, where this is more important than Greek suffering, but French socialist IMF leader is not playing the game correctly, where she would prefer a socialist government in Germany, so Germany falls with France, rather than just France falling with the rest of the PIIGS.

That's correct Rods2 it was quite interesting to see as the previous (socialist) goverment got the Hun society to be freejack for banks in point of currency loan despite the left wing ideology the Socialist Party represent (or should be at least) and after elections when the right wing FIDESZ got the power they positioned themselves beside the people and not the banks. As much as they can the EU try to accept this method of crisis handling. Nowadays the gov emits euro based bond to finance the budget and to avoid the IMF trap.

Strange... ..they work for me....doesn't mattter , anyway..people are rising against the government and demonstraitons were so violently crushed....never happened before, even you compare it with old commy government in all 46 years....(which wasn't comunism at all believe me, I was raised in those times and it wasn't as bad as people in foreign countries think)...it'sad where this all leads to

trust me I'm not surprised..  people were too much frightened with those horror stories..
 
so the gun cartels could work flat out..  and selected idiots politicians comfortable in their chairs..
 
one day people will understand who is really sucking blood..

Some yrs ago hereby also happened things like that serious protesting against the goverment led by Soci Party. They had to see that sensity of society is not endless.

[cem_devecioglu]

That's correct Rods2 it was quite interesting to see as the previous (socialist) goverment got the Hun society to be freejack for banks in point of currency loan despite the left wing ideology the Socialist Party represent (or should be at least) and after elections when the right wing FIDESZ got the power they positioned themselves beside the people and not the banks. As much as they can the EU try to accept this method of crisis handling. Nowadays the gov emits euro based bond to finance the budget and to avoid the IMF trap.

Strange... ..they work for me....doesn't mattter , anyway..people are rising against the government and demonstraitons were so violently crushed....never happened before, even you compare it with old commy government in all 46 years....(which wasn't comunism at all believe me, I was raised in those times and it wasn't as bad as people in foreign countries think)...it'sad where this all leads to

That's correct Rods2 it was quite interesting to see as the previous (socialist) goverment got the Hun society to be freejack for banks in point of currency loan despite the left wing ideology the Socialist Party represent (or should be at least) and after elections when the right wing FIDESZ got the power they positioned themselves beside the people and not the banks. As much as they can the EU try to accept this method of crisis handling. Nowadays the gov emits euro based bond to finance the budget and to avoid the IMF trap.

classical example of mixing left and right

[Rods2]

Strange... ..they work for me....doesn't mattter , anyway..people are rising against the government and demonstraitons were so violently crushed....never happened before, even you compare it with old commy government in all 46 years....(which wasn't comunism at all believe me, I was raised in those times and it wasn't as bad as people in foreign countries think)...it'sad where this all leads to

I think it depends upon the country and USSR satellite countries tended to have much more liberal regimes.

Where my wife comes from in Ukraine, some very bad things happened under communism. Ukraine was always classed as a trouble making province of Russia, where they have a large Cossack population, who always wanted independence (they had it briefly from 1918 to 1920) and therefore they weren't the most cooperative of people. But they have also always been a well educated skilled workforce, which is why on the breakup of the Soviet Union, much of their military, electronics as well as heavy industry was based there.

[cem_devecioglu]

Strange... ..they work for me....doesn't mattter , anyway..people are rising against the government and demonstraitons were so violently crushed....never happened before, even you compare it with old commy government in all 46 years....(which wasn't comunism at all believe me, I was raised in those times and it wasn't as bad as people in foreign countries think)...it'sad where this all leads to

I think it depends upon the country and USSR satellite countries tended to have much more liberal regimes.

Where my wife comes from in Ukraine, some very bad things happened under communism. Ukraine was always classed as a trouble making province of Russia, where they have a large Cossack population, who always wanted independence (they had it briefly from 1918 to 1920) and therefore they weren't the most cooperative of people. But they have also always been a well educated skilled workforce, which is why on the breakup of the Soviet Union, much of their military, electronics as well as heavy industry was based there.

I'm afraid that conclusion for a huge country is not correct Rods.. there are several military, heavy industry regions depending on the security, population and  transportation parameters..  
 
Ukraine's chance is black sea where there are several harbors..  but there are others also..