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[Vamps]

I know this post is well over 4 years old    But still the eBay fees are disgusting as ever, Just sold my old iPhone and the eBay and PayPal fees combined made my eyes water    Plus there's the possibility of a fake claim to be maid within 45days ... Oh Joy.

Yep, all the 'old' arguments are as valid as ever Omegaman2.2! Greed seems to be the way to go in these cash strapped times!

Very true, £52.06 in total they took the B******* 

But what was the final cost of the item for sale? they only take an advertised percentage, no different to an auction house.....

[Sir Tigger KC]

I sold a car recently via a classified ad on ebay.  It worked out much cheaper than Autotrader or the local papers, and I got more response from the ad! 

[OmegaAnglesey]

I know this post is well over 4 years old    But still the eBay fees are disgusting as ever, Just sold my old iPhone and the eBay and PayPal fees combined made my eyes water    Plus there's the possibility of a fake claim to be maid within 45days ... Oh Joy.

Yep, all the 'old' arguments are as valid as ever Omegaman2.2! Greed seems to be the way to go in these cash strapped times!

Very true, £52.06 in total they took the B******* 

But what was the final cost of the item for sale? they only take an advertised percentage, no different to an auction house.....

not enough especially after the fees. Made a loss of around £180 from when I bought it new 12 or so months ago which isn't too bad for a phone granted.. But still 

[Vamps]

I know this post is well over 4 years old    But still the eBay fees are disgusting as ever, Just sold my old iPhone and the eBay and PayPal fees combined made my eyes water    Plus there's the possibility of a fake claim to be maid within 45days ... Oh Joy.

Yep, all the 'old' arguments are as valid as ever Omegaman2.2! Greed seems to be the way to go in these cash strapped times!

Very true, £52.06 in total they took the B******* 

But what was the final cost of the item for sale? they only take an advertised percentage, no different to an auction house.....

not enough especially after the fees. Made a loss of around £180 from when I bought it new 12 or so months ago which isn't too bad for a phone granted.. But still 

So nothing really to so with ebay, they charge like, and often less, than any auction house, a fee, which you know about before dealing....................

[OmegaAnglesey]

I know this post is well over 4 years old    But still the eBay fees are disgusting as ever, Just sold my old iPhone and the eBay and PayPal fees combined made my eyes water    Plus there's the possibility of a fake claim to be maid within 45days ... Oh Joy.

Yep, all the 'old' arguments are as valid as ever Omegaman2.2! Greed seems to be the way to go in these cash strapped times!

Very true, £52.06 in total they took the B******* 

But what was the final cost of the item for sale? they only take an advertised percentage, no different to an auction house.....

not enough especially after the fees. Made a loss of around £180 from when I bought it new 12 or so months ago which isn't too bad for a phone granted.. But still 

So nothing really to so with ebay, they charge like, and often less, than any auction house, a fee, which you know about before dealing....................

Greedy b*#%^#*€ they are nevertheless..

[Mr Skrunts]

I know this post is well over 4 years old    But still the eBay fees are disgusting as ever, Just sold my old iPhone and the eBay and PayPal fees combined made my eyes water    Plus there's the possibility of a fake claim to be maid within 45days ... Oh Joy.

Yep, all the 'old' arguments are as valid as ever Omegaman2.2! Greed seems to be the way to go in these cash strapped times!

Very true, £52.06 in total they took the B******* 

But what was the final cost of the item for sale? they only take an advertised percentage, no different to an auction house.....

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I sold a car recently via a classified ad on ebay.  It worked out much cheaper than Autotrader or the local papers, and I got more response from the ad! 

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Bit extreme though vamps, when you have to pay a percentage for an an but just a fixed fee for a motor car (May be wrong and am sure someone will correct me if I am)

[TheBoy]

I know this thread is well over 4 years old    But still the eBay fees are disgusting as ever, Just sold my old iPhone and the eBay and PayPal fees combined made my eyes water    Plus there's the possibility of a fake claim to be maid within 45days ... Oh Joy.

The fees are transparent enough, so you would have known before.

In addition, when you list certain items, you are warned again.

I repeat again, if you don't like the fees, don't use the service

[TheBoy]

People like to bitch about Paypal and Ebay.

Lets start with Paypal, essentially a clearing house. They start out at 5.25%. The more your use them, the cheaper it gets. Pretty much the same as any other clearing house pricewise, but without the commitments, or the rental/initial outlay on PDQ machines. Also means you can get around having pay for, and jump through the hoops required for, PCI compliance. Its also incredibly easy to set up and use, unlike other clearing houses. This is quite a competitive market.

Ebay, the auction house for people's otherwise unsellable tat. It is just that, an auction house. You pay fees (sometimes, only if you sell) for them to auction it off on your behalf. The fees are stated beforehand, there are no surprises. The fees seemed to be much more reasonable than when I last went to sell stuff at a traditional auction (admitted a few years ago now).


Some people have a mindset that because its on the internet, it should be free. Providing internet services is not cheap - the capital involved to set it up and regularly replace the servers and infrastructure is colossal, and the ongoing bills for bandwidth, power and cooling are even more eye watering. A company like Ebay or Paypal would also require top tier support contracts from all their suppliers.

For example, I'm currently building the infrastructure for an upgraded "Customer Portal" for a 3rd party. It has 10 HP C7000 chassis', each full of a full compliment (16) Proliant blades, each with 2 16 cores Opteron CPUs, and 128Gb RAM. The chassis' have all the FC and 10Gbe interconnect modules to talk out. To make this work, there are also 2 XP SANs, each with a pair of switch fabrics, and 4 Netapps Filers. Linking this altogether are Cisco switches, routers and ACEs, and a whole bunch of firewalls from a well respected company that I'm sure I'm not allowed to say. All of this stuff needs 24/7/365 top tier support, which over the life of the components, will be more than the capital cost. The life of the individual components is likely to be a maximum of 5yrs, although it may be expanded long before then.  I'll leave you to calculate costs. Then factor in bandwidth, electric and cooling.

And this is just to provide the portal. Customer data is held on existing backend kit.


So, in reality, I don't think Paypal and Ebay are so bad

[VXL V6]

For example, I'm currently building the infrastructure for an upgraded "Customer Portal" for a 3rd party. It has 10 HP C7000 chassis', each full of a full compliment (16) Proliant blades, each with 2 16 cores Opteron CPUs, and 128Gb RAM. The chassis' have all the FC and 10Gbe interconnect modules to talk out. To make this work, there are also 2 XP SANs, each with a pair of switch fabrics, and 4 Netapps Filers. Linking this altogether are Cisco switches, routers and ACEs, and a whole bunch of firewalls from a well respected company that I'm sure I'm not allowed to say. All of this stuff needs 24/7/365 top tier support, which over the life of the components, will be more than the capital cost. The life of the individual components is likely to be a maximum of 5yrs, although it may be expanded long before then.  I'll leave you to calculate costs. Then factor in bandwidth, electric and cooling.

+ Diverse power feeds, diverse connectivity pipes, UPS, fuel for UPS, maintenance on the best level contracts possible, physical security for the data centre and a reasonable perimeter around it, technical staff to support each individual element, software upgrade contracts, Pen testing, insurance..... etc etc