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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #30 on: 13 February 2013, 22:40:08 »

The foxes have migrated... From the country to the towns and city centres ;)

Go out in the country and you will see very few but they're all over the town centres ::)

I agree that there are plenty of humans that could do with culling too ::) But the fact is, foxes are vermin... Pure and simple
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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #31 on: 13 February 2013, 22:48:04 »


The problem is the abundance of "Easy" food in towns ::)


Exactly. We are talking about a very territorial animal. Give it less rich pickings and it will take more territory to keep itself fed, and defend it, so reducing the numbers in urban areas.. Leave a load of food lying around, or even allow daft townies to feed them because they're cuddly, and the opposite happens.

Kinda difficult to feel sorry for the same townies who voted to ban hunting, though (other than the poor baby, of course). As we sow, so shall we reap.

All of a sudden, though, there might be a headline in it for the political classes, thanks to someone's misfortune, so expect some daft, unworkable knee jerk legislation to be cobbled together any day soon. ::)
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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #32 on: 13 February 2013, 22:58:27 »

The foxes have migrated... From the country to the towns and city centres ;)

Go out in the country and you will see very few but they're all over the town centres ::)

I agree that there are plenty of humans that could do with culling too ::) But the fact is, foxes are vermin... Pure and simple

You've obviously missed the point entirely :)

The foxes haven't migrated.  :)

They're still living in the same places, but the difference is humans have selfishly turned a habitat that was once good for many species, into something that is only favourable to themselves, and now they have conflict, which due to the arrogance of the human species is blamed on the fox.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) I can do a smiley face too!  :)
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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #33 on: 13 February 2013, 23:14:37 »

The foxes have migrated... From the country to the towns and city centres ;)

Go out in the country and you will see very few but they're all over the town centres ::)

I agree that there are plenty of humans that could do with culling too ::) But the fact is, foxes are vermin... Pure and simple

You've obviously missed the point entirely :)

The foxes haven't migrated.  :)

They're still living in the same places, but the difference is humans have selfishly turned a habitat that was once good for many species, into something that is only favourable to themselves, and now they have conflict, which due to the arrogance of the human species is blamed on the fox.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) I can do a smiley face too!  :)

But they have also, as said, removed all the Fox's natural predators (ok, and added the car, which might cause a little attrition), and made food much more readily available, so it's not all bad for poor Reynard. ;)
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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #34 on: 13 February 2013, 23:16:02 »

We couldn't agree last time this subject came up and I doubt we will this time.

If foxes are still living where they always have then why has the rural population reduced over the same period that urban population has increased ???

Foxes are and always have been vermin. Just like rats, mice, starlings, pigeons and seagulls (to name but a few). They kill for the sake of killing (like some humans I suppose ::)) and are becoming more and more bold/brave around humans because of so many people feeding them. The fact remains, you'll rarely see a fox bold enough to be around humans in rural areas but in the urban environment the lentil munchers have given them free reign!

Anyway... As said before, I'll bet my £1 that there is more to the story than meets the eye ;) Possibly they (or someone very nearby) have been feeding them. Or possibly something else... I doubt we'll ever know!
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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #35 on: 13 February 2013, 23:40:44 »

I live on the edge of woodand & watched a badger give a fox a right mauling, it all happened in my garden too. we had put leftovers out for the badger but the big dog fox was persistant & kept trying to worry the badger off. Didn`t work the cos the badger locked onto the foxes neck & the screaming yelps were bloody awful. The experts will say don`t put any food out, but to get close to a badger is great.
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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #36 on: 13 February 2013, 23:42:06 »

Other countries have their own problems with urban animals.  Parts of Canada and the US have bears going through their bins and many African towns and cities have urban leopards!!  :o  Here Kitty Kitty!!  ;D
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« Reply #37 on: 13 February 2013, 23:57:01 »

Berlin have a wild urban boar problem, some of those tinkers get to 2m high!
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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #38 on: 14 February 2013, 00:23:55 »

We couldn't agree last time this subject came up and I doubt we will this time.

If foxes are still living where they always have then why has the rural population reduced over the same period that urban population has increased ???

Foxes are and always have been vermin. Just like rats, mice, starlings, pigeons and seagulls (to name but a few). They kill for the sake of killing (like some humans I suppose ::)) and are becoming more and more bold/brave around humans because of so many people feeding them. The fact remains, you'll rarely see a fox bold enough to be around humans in rural areas but in the urban environment the lentil munchers have given them free reign!

Anyway... As said before, I'll bet my £1 that there is more to the story than meets the eye ;) Possibly they (or someone very nearby) have been feeding them. Or possibly something else... I doubt we'll ever know!

I tend to agree with that, something not quite right imo and worty of further investigation, have the family got a dog? :-X

Not certain on your other points, Vermin? tis an opinion; they are part of the natural food chain. I live in a rural area, please do not tell me fox hunting by hounds does not happen.... :-X :-X
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« Reply #39 on: 14 February 2013, 00:42:01 »

I dont agree with hunting with hounds personally.Its very inefficient and never a clean kill.Field sports should always be aiming for an instant painless kill,so imo it should only be done with an appropriate sized rifle,which would also be a more effcetive method of controlling numbers.
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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #40 on: 14 February 2013, 05:12:22 »

 >:( Its not the foxes that are to blame at all.....it's the stupid sods that encourage them by leaving food and waste out that they then seek out as food! It is the people who act as they do and encourage them into the city that need to be culled, alongside those who think that hunting them on horseback or on foot is a sport.
Why was her house open anyway for one to get in? Why was she not there instead of gossipping with her neighbour in her home next door? The parent should be charged with child neglect as far as I am concerned.
Leave the foxes alone because where I live they are welcomed and cause very little damage because we tend to keep the rubbish where it belongs....in the bins and not strewn on the streets.
Why also is it London that appears to be the city always with the problem? Is it so filthy a city that it cannot be reformed into a cleaner one? It is the human mindset that is responsible because a fox acts like a fox, just as any animal acts as an animal, no animal can think or reason like a human which logically means that they acting normally and just as Mother Nature taught them!
Once again Social Services and Childrens Departments are all to ready to blame the wrong party. Blame that irresponsible parent instead and get it right just for once!
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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #41 on: 14 February 2013, 08:59:12 »

Because we have bred a generation/generations of ignorant arseholes, many town centres are littered with half eaten pizza, which is obviously too heavy to dispose of in a bin, so our little retards just drop them as they walk.

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Re: Urban Foxes
« Reply #42 on: 14 February 2013, 10:16:01 »

When I lived in England our neighbours on our left fed the foxes a hot cooked chicken dinner (including veggies) every day.

The entrance to the foxes earth(burrow) was behind our greenhouse. It was a constant job shifting the soil they excavated.

The neighbour on the right predictably came a cropper one day when his garden collapsed under him.
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« Reply #43 on: 14 February 2013, 13:29:21 »

all foxes should be shot on site they ars nothung but vermin not urban pets if you could see the amount of damage 1 fox can do to a chicken coup you would think like i do they kill for pleasure i seen what damage a fox can do 100 chickens killed in 1 houronly 2 taken for food they are vermin and should be treat as so the only good fox is a dead one
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