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[Lazydocker]

A properly fitted spin on needs no tools to undo

Never been able to do it without a tool on my 2.2

Ah yes... But you're about 4 stone wet through and have the physique to match

Us more "manly" OOFers can undo them by hand

[Andy H]

You shouldn't get hot oil by the time you've drained the sump .  Equally you should only get a few drips if you have waited for the sump to empty.

Cobblers

I thought I was quite restrained in my original answer but obviously I wasn't clear enough.  Only an idiot would remove the filter before draining the sump, letting the filter drain, and so letting the oil cool

How did you come to that conclusion? The non return valve in the oil pump prevents the oil in the filter from draining back into the sump.

[05omegav6]

A properly fitted spin on needs no tools to undo

Never been able to do it without a tool on my 2.2

Weetabix

Hand tight plus one click of the wrist stout gloves required when removing though, as they can be a bit warm

[chrisgixer]

Sorry I asked the question as it has caused a "heated debate"

For my own experience the cartridge top came off without any issues and replacing the element was a simple process.I have decided to retain the original fit filter the car was made with as it gave me no complications replacing it.

Will keep the spigot pipe and couple of spin on filters in stock just incaes things get difficult intime

Yes amba
<life of Brian voice on>.  Your a very naughty boy. <off>

A wise choice though. If it ain't broke...

[Radar]

I've had both types and would not change what was on the car originally.  My preference is for the cartridge as I find it less messy to drain a bit before fully undoing.  The dribble of oil on the canister used to go a bit more awol

[tunnie]

A properly fitted spin on needs no tools to undo

Never been able to do it without a tool on my 2.2

Weetabix

Hand tight plus one click of the wrist stout gloves required when removing though, as they can be a bit warm

I only put them on hand tight, but can never get them off. That said I've drained the sump, so got a little bit of oil on the gloves. Next time I might try cranking the spin on before draining the sump.

[05omegav6]

That will get messy

[tunnie]

That will get messy

Only getting it going, just "cracked" enough so later on with oil covered gloves it spins off easily 

[albitz]

One advantage of the canister type is that its much easier to  undo the oil cooler pipes if you need to.

[TheBoy]

Sorry I asked the question as it has caused a "heated debate"

For my own experience the cartridge top came off without any issues and replacing the element was a simple process.I have decided to retain the original fit filter the car was made with as it gave me no complications replacing it.

Will keep the spigot pipe and couple of spin on filters in stock just incaes things get difficult intime

Thats what matters, amba

[TheBoy]

One advantage of the canister type is that its much easier to  undo the oil cooler pipes if you need to.

And as I said earlier, writing mileage/date on with permenent marker