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A bit controversial...
« on: 19 October 2013, 10:17:57 »

Having had yet another begging letter through the door from a cancer charity, it prompted me to wonder exactly what the state of research is in the country. There seems to me to be a huge number of charities using the cancer word to raise funds. I may be a bit cynical, but the glossy nature of their mailshots (this morning's even contained a CD!) and the bureaucracy such undertakings require makes me wonder exactly how much money is actually going to research. Furthermore, given the number of organisations, it prompts me also to wonder whether there is not a huge amount of money being wasted through unnecessary replication of organisation/research.

Finally, although I am in no way medically qualified, I find it incredible that a potential cure for cancer (which I have mentioned before) is out there, but still requires funding to move it on. Surely, this sort of work requires international funding in order to speed up development and save lives?

Hopefully, though, with apparent success in treating large animals and the seeking of FDA approval to test on humans not that far away, we could be looking at finally having the weaponry to take on this horrid illness.  :y

http://www.winknews.com/Local-Florida/2013-08-30/New-developments-in-fight-against-cancer#.UmJJNhDciM0
   
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Re: A bit controversial...
« Reply #1 on: 19 October 2013, 10:30:20 »

Unfortunately I am highly sceptical of most high profile organised fund raising. In the majority if not all cases, I seriously question how much of the cash gets used for the intended purpose rather than supporting the fund raising organsisation itself.

Sit on a London suburban train and walls are covered with heart rending adverts asking you to text something to a number to donate. The result for me is complete immunity to all of it. So they get nothing. However if I see someone with a legitimate collecting tin on the street I will happilly throw some cash in.

I know someone who used to work in the accounts department of a major charity, she left due to the waste, extravegance, and self interest within the organisation.

And don't get me started on the "chuggers . . . . . "  ::)
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Re: A bit controversial...
« Reply #2 on: 19 October 2013, 10:38:30 »

There is a reason I won't give to most charities, and that is because very little of what you give actually goes towards what is actually being advertised.

The other reason is so many refuse to take my £20 or whatever, wanting me to set up a DD instead.


And the likes of the BBC should not be allowed to back *any* charity  >:(.  How many really needy, useful charities are going to lose so many donations, as they cannot match the pointless CIN having near 24/7 free TV advertising for a month. Absolute bloody disgrace  >:(.

Needless to say, anyone rattling a CIN tin in front of me or asking me to participate in their group wank-off is liable to end up with a sore face  >:(
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« Reply #3 on: 19 October 2013, 10:40:02 »

 ???  no idea what side effects it may show later but idea really seems brilliant :)  and very good news :) :y
 
I will share it on facebook Nick.. with the hope that my doctor school friends in USA will focus on it :) :y
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« Reply #4 on: 19 October 2013, 10:47:00 »

???  no idea what side effects it may show later but idea really seems brilliant :)  and very good news :) :y
 
I will share it on facebook Nick.. with the hope that my doctor school friends in USA will focus on it :) :y

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« Reply #5 on: 19 October 2013, 10:47:39 »

There is a reason I won't give to most charities, and that is because very little of what you give actually goes towards what is actually being advertised.

The other reason is so many refuse to take my £20 or whatever, wanting me to set up a DD instead.


And the likes of the BBC should not be allowed to back *any* charity  >:(.  How many really needy, useful charities are going to lose so many donations, as they cannot match the pointless CIN having near 24/7 free TV advertising for a month. Absolute bloody disgrace  >:(.

Needless to say, anyone rattling a CIN tin in front of me or asking me to participate in their group wank-off is liable to end up with a sore face  >:(

You won't want to read this then, Jaime. ;)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2385754/Fury-charity-boss-says-donors-dont-mind-paying-figure-salaries.html
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Re: A bit controversial...
« Reply #6 on: 19 October 2013, 18:58:15 »

Unfortunately, what originally starts off as a noble idea, gets hijacked by vested interests. This has sadly happened to too many charities. Many are now taking EU money and will come to the aid of the EU in return, which is why you often these days see some EU propaganda endorsed by a range of UK charities. Dr Goebbels and Lord Haw Haw would be proud.

The establishment then get involved in other ways by becoming part of the management / figurehead of the charity on a vast salary or getting involved (illegally) in politics and political correctness, with a don't do what we do, do what we say attitude. In effect what a charity give to their noble cause is the profits from their operations which with far too many high profile charities these days is IMO too little.

So I will only donate to low key charities and appeals these days, where I know the majority of the money is spent on the front line and the noble cause rightly benefits.

There is much happening on the fight against cancer at the moment I recently posted a thread on using the immune system of here, but there are also an number of biotech companies, especially in the US trialing major new drugs which are going to change how view and treat cancer and other diseases.

There is also much research going on at the moment to enable people to live not only for much longer, but also to have their full health. This means that all of us are going to in the future work until we are 80 to 100 probably within our lifetime if you haven't reached retirement age yet where age span will continue to increase where living to 120 to 160 years will be the norm.

One of the reasons for our current welfare and spending crisis is an aging population where the ratio of workers, where children per couple is going down in the Western world to well below replacement rates is to solve the health problems of old age so we can continue to lead productive lives. Society is going to profoundly change with the applications of new technologies over the next 50 years. Exciting times lie ahead.

The fact that this breakthrough and completely different technology for treating cancer has come from outside the medical and pharmaceutical industries does not surprise me is as all industries 50 - 80% of breakthroughs come from outside sources. The problem when you work within and industry is that  everybody tends to think in the same way, so you have evolution rather than revolutionary breakthroughs.
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Re: A bit controversial...
« Reply #7 on: 19 October 2013, 19:10:18 »

I, only give to sally ann's boys and girls and the lifeboats. many years ago I knew of an ex military officer who was discharged for fiddling the mess accounts, who then joined save the children as a company officer if my memory serves me !
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Re: A bit controversial...
« Reply #8 on: 19 October 2013, 19:28:54 »

There is a National Charity regularly advertising themselves as heroes on tv that I could tell a tale about, I was appalled when my sister accepted a job from them as a fund raiser, she later learned that I was right and moved on..........

Nationally I am happy to support MacMillan Nurses having been fortunate, or is that unfortunately, having had need of them myself.....

In addition I will support direct local organisations or activities..... I recently paid a Scout not to pack my shopping; I asked him if he went shopping with his Mum he said no...... :D :D

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Re: A bit controversial...
« Reply #9 on: 20 October 2013, 15:39:08 »

I give a lot of money to charity through various ways and, thankfully, most of what I give goes to smaller charities who don't have plush offices and a CEO on a 6 figure salary :o ::)

Shelter boils my urine a tad... A Charity for Homeless people has an open plan ground floor "Space" (no desks or anything, just a security guard) in it's Central London HQ but doesn't let the homeless sleep there. In fact, I witnessed someone get moved on from the doorway by security :-X ::)
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Re: A bit controversial...
« Reply #10 on: 20 October 2013, 16:25:47 »

I never give to charity fir alot of reasons. My first bad experience was with green peacr. When I was young and stuoid I signed upto a 5 quid a month dd. After a few months I cancelled it with my bank and shortly after started receiving threating letters from them stating id entered into a legally binding contract for 2 years.  I phoned them and pretty much told them to go opps them selves and if they wanted to go to the time and expense of sueing me for 110 quid to go on ahead, which they never  did. Was treated as if I was falling behind on a god dam loan shark loan.

Secondly with working part time in the signage industry I have done alot of work for charities where they require top of the range door plagues, digital wall paper and top of the range outdoor building signage. Example a lexan plaque mounted with stainless steel fixers at 100 a pop. In offices where its all mac book pros and state of the art no expense spared office suites. How about using vinyl lettering for a door which would be 5 quid instead and give the other 95 towards the actual cause.

Also alot of these charities directors have high end bmw or merc company cars huge salaries and company houses etc.

To legally be a charity I think its only 17 percent collected actually has to go to the cause also they are tax exemptwhich Iis a huge benefit.

Lastly I have personally met a man who runs a charity for person gain. He rruins.it like a dodgy business. All cash goes in his pocket and he scrounges free everything, signs, supplies and services using the im a charity ace card.

So even if they are opperating within the confinds of the law there is still room for 83percent administration costs I.e. the suoer decked out offices and super high roller directors etc.

So I say charity begins at home. Help a financially struggling bro or sister or buy your elderly neighbour a few bags of coal etc.
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« Reply #11 on: 20 October 2013, 16:46:24 »

It has become a sector of the economy,like any other,where there are lucrative jobs & careers for those with good sales techniques,and often a champagne socialist mentality.
As said,its best to do some research and choose wisely when donating to charity these days. :y
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« Reply #12 on: 20 October 2013, 17:03:19 »

I used to work for a charity (i wont say which one) getting paid £20/hr for IT support  ::)

The same charity has an account with the cab firm, I work for.....the CEO has a cab to and from the rail station on account everyday he's there, no doubt his rail fare is paid for as well. When they have VIP's visit the cab's requested on account are ''exec' vehicles (ie E class merc's) which they pay £14 for the first mile  :-X When I had the Merc Viano I was given an 'exec' job for them, to take a bunch of them to a restaurant down the road a few miles.....a damned expensive one  :-X
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Re: A bit controversial...
« Reply #13 on: 20 October 2013, 17:55:31 »

I, only give to sally ann's boys and girls and the lifeboats. many years ago I knew of an ex military officer who was discharged for fiddling the mess accounts, who then joined save the children as a company officer if my memory serves me !
Sounds like a guy I was at school with, who after being kicked out of the army as a Major, went on to further fiddles, and then popped up at an Old Boy's Day as the Earl of *****, having resurrected the title from some long dead and distant ancestor!!! Go figure ??? ??? ???
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