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[HolyCount]

old fella on the news tonight just turned 112,one of three remaining ww1 survivors,they asked him what the secret of his longevity was,he said"cigarettes whiskey and wild women"-priceless.

I knew I was going wrong somewhere !!!

Fast women and loose cars are supposed to be good too!

Sheesh -- got THAT wrong too !!!!

[Leomas]

Spooky thing is that he is one three known British survivors from the First World War....and there is one from each of the three main services

[kris9128]

watched the news the other day and was shocked to hear that traffic wardens are actually better paid than most of our serving armed forces. come somebody please explain how this is f*k*n possible. we've got the bravest and most dedicated people putting their lives on the line for this f*ck*d up c*ntry getting paid less than a bunch of wombles out to punish the average joe for parking in the wrong place. sorry to any traffic wardens but i just think this is wrong. rant over

[Richie London]

watched the news the other day and was shocked to hear that traffic wardens are actually better paid than most of our serving armed forces. come somebody please explain how this is f*k*n possible. we've got the bravest and most dedicated people putting their lives on the line for this f*ck*d up c*ntry getting paid less than a bunch of wombles out to punish the average joe for parking in the wrong place. sorry to any traffic wardens but i just think this is wrong. rant over

i fink its a rather disgrace, and they have to live in squaler too when they get back as there too tight to bring there accomadation up to liveable standards. they treat prisoners better than they do the services

[albitz]

traffic wardens make money for the treasury,armed forces dont-end of story as far as politicians are concerned.they dont understand concepts like honour,loyalty,true patriotism.

[kris9128]

traffic wardens make money for the treasury,armed forces dont-end of story as far as politicians are concerned.they dont understand concepts like honour,loyalty,true patriotism.

was led to believe our brave boys and girls were out there fighting for oil world peace. therefore making more money for the treasury than traffic wombles. thismight upset some people but i gone past caring. it's about time our armed forces got the respect they deserve. give them a pay rise, sort their housing out. take care of their families while they are risking their lives in some god foresaken country fighting for some bullshit reasons. if you have been offended by my comments tonight then b*ll*cks to ya. to all our armed forces you're doing a great job and are greatly apprieciated. many thanks to all of you

[albitz]

here,here.-i get annoyed sometimes when people who disagree with a particular conflict assume that it is the forces fault.the forces dont choose which wars they fight ,the politicians do that for them and they then have to go and serve the country in a professional manner ,regardless of the rights or wrongs.

[kris9128]

thats the problem with this once great country, the f*k*ng politicians.

[Vamps]

here,here.-i get annoyed sometimes when people who disagree with a particular conflict assume that it is the forces fault.the forces dont choose which wars they fight ,the politicians do that for them and they then have to go and serve the country in a professional manner ,regardless of the rights or wrongs.

Agreed.

[Omegaani]

watched the news the other day and was shocked to hear that traffic wardens are actually better paid than most of our serving armed forces

I read someone disputing that story and saying that when you take various things into account the basic qualified soldier - sailor - airman is actually paid a bit more than a traffic warden.  

And I thought - you idiot.  

A person in the military basically can't ever be paid enough compared to the normal "going rate". There is no market price for running up a beach into a hail of machine gun fire knowing that your chances are slim (or the valiant service equivalent). Although in a lot of ways they are just arse-scratching individuals like the rest of us, our service personnel are indeed priceless. There is no health and safety executive directive that applies to people who will fall onto a hand grenade to save their colleagues and the mission (and they do!). This is not just a job like a traffic warden or being Ant and f*cking Dek.

Since we can't ever pay them enough, we should at least make sure they are secure and not suffering hardship in the everyday world. They are worth at least what a university graduate who goes straight into a council job supporting the arts gets (£23,000 starting, etc). Just think about what someone like our albitz goes through on our behalf and then take a look at this to see our smug government's priorities:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolpda/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_4828000/4828946.stm

If that doesn't make you angry - check to see if you are still alive.

If that does make you angry, channel that anger into writing to your MP about the priority we should give to our armed services in all regards compared to frivolous luxuries. Our elected tosspots are feeling vulnerable at the moment - no better time to stick a dose of smelling salts under their dripping noses.

Honour the Covenant.

[Gaffers]

Agree with the above.

I joined the RN to help make a difference.
It makes me fell good to know that when we do go out to third world country's that have been hit buy natral disasters that just being their brings their sprits up. When we stop drug trafficin we are stoppin the drugs hittin our streets.

i might mank and moan about my job some times but deep down I LOVE IT!

Me too, its one of the reasons I joined the medics.  Whilst were not fighting as per se, but more providing to the moral comonent required for a soldier to have the courage to put his life on the line.

Been to Normandie, Ypres (before joining the army) and I now live in Belson.  I thought it necessary to get some perspective before joining the fight.  Very distrubing to see all the crosses at the Amercian Cemetary.  Very heartwarming to see the Germans buried alongside the British graves as equals.

At the end of the day the soldier is just an extension of governmental policy, soldiers, sailors and airmen just do the job.

RIP all the fallen, a salute to all those still standing

[Marie]

here her gaffers!

The biggest problem we have right now is their are not enough of the right type of people joinin the armed forces.

kids these days are far to pink and fluffy. (sorry) they are far to aware of their human right and refuse to tow the line and be disaplined in our jobs and when they do get run/punished for not towing the line they up sticks and leave leavin us hardened older members of the forces to pick up the slack. i know lads in my branch who have done 10mth out of 12 away with kids etc because we just dont have enough man power to cover our commitments.

Dont get me wrng i have thought of leaving the RN for this reason but then something makes me stay and not put my notice in. dunno what it is.