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[Martin_1962]

I know the person this site is about, the same person who thinks air boxes are for LPG ECUs and the pipe across the radiator is a good place to get hot water.

http://www.lpginfo.co.uk/index.html

[Ken T]

 Perhaps we should start an OIL Association.

(Omega Installers of LPG )

Ken

[rickyboy]

I know the person this site is about, the same person who thinks air boxes are for LPG ECUs and the pipe across the radiator is a good place to get hot water.

http://www.lpginfo.co.uk/index.html

You'll get the whole story from both sides of this on www.lpgforum.co.uk.  There was a real hate campaign from a couple of the forum members for a while on xxxxx.

[JamesV6CDX]

I'm not sure setting up a website to slate someone in that manner is a great idea

[Entwood]

That site has been up nearly a year now, I read most of it when researching my LPG install.

IMHO it comes down to 1 crappy installer and the LPGA supporting its members not its customers.

LPGA is a TRADE ASSOCIATION ... it exists to protect the trade, unfortunately Insurance companies often demand LPGA certification, so you are stuck with obtaining that useles bit of paper.

At the end of the day research and talking to existing customers made my decision for me.... and so far (touch wood) I've not had the problems that guy did.

[Martin_1962]

I know the person this site is about, the same person who thinks air boxes are for LPG ECUs and the pipe across the radiator is a good place to get hot water.

http://www.lpginfo.co.uk/index.html

You'll get the whole story from both sides of this on www.lpgforum.co.uk.  There was a real hate campaign from a couple of the forum members for a while on xxxxxx.

Do you have a link?

I can well understand this as well

Sticking the LPG ECU in the airbox over the inlet pipe does wonders for intake performance, and make sure the cables melt by running past the EGR valve.

Then tell the customer "Don't come back unless you pay more" is good customer service.

Just wish I had some pictures of it

[Martin_1962]

I'm not sure setting up a website to slate someone in that manner is a great idea

You can do quite a bit on forums - I have never mentioned names but people do know who did a poor install on my last car

[Martin_1962]

That site has been up nearly a year now, I read most of it when researching my LPG install.

IMHO it comes down to 1 crappy installer and the LPGA supporting its members not its customers.

LPGA is a TRADE ASSOCIATION ... it exists to protect the trade, unfortunately Insurance companies often demand LPGA certification, so you are stuck with obtaining that useles bit of paper.

At the end of the day research and talking to existing customers made my decision for me.... and so far (touch wood) I've not had the problems that guy did.

His was done after my MV6 conversion - which as I have stated before was not very good.

Hence why I DIYed the 2.6

[rickyboy]

I thought about doing LPG conversions for my family and close friends and it's cases like this that put me off.  I would consider you pretty lucky to have your conversion go smoothly from its original install and first map.  As most of you with LPG know problems with LPG can arise from out of nowhere.  

On the LPG forum he has always been very helpful to others and his advice has always been good and informative.  I've never had help from him personally but do sympathise with him for the fact that LPG installs can be so unpredictable especially in the first weeks of an install.

I think you are best to leave LPG alone if you don't have any experience of mechanics or aren't willing to get your hands dirty now and then.  Just had to re-tune mine after cleaning the throttle body as a pipe was completely blocked.  I've had a knock sensor code driving me nuts for month - all I needed to do was enrichen the mixture when I thought I had an air leak.

[rickyboy]

I know the person this site is about, the same person who thinks air boxes are for LPG ECUs and the pipe across the radiator is a good place to get hot water.

http://www.lpginfo.co.uk/index.html

You'll get the whole story from both sides of this on www.lpgforum.co.uk.  There was a real hate campaign from a couple of the forum members for a while on golpg.

Do you have a link?

I can well understand this as well

Sticking the LPG ECU in the airbox over the inlet pipe does wonders for intake performance, and make sure the cables melt by running past the EGR valve.

Then tell the customer "Don't come back unless you pay more" is good customer service.

Just wish I had some pictures of it

You'll have to search it was a long time ago this was circulating the forum and I don't really remember the ins and outs of it and what the other user names were etc.  

I agree with what you're saying about the LPG ECU and using the radiator pipe for water supply but the installer of mine (who I don't know, already installed when I bought the car) had done exactly the same thing.  I had to replum all pipes from the matrix to the vapouriser.  

Don't think it was that uncommon for hash ups like this when LPG was first being installed on cars in the UK.  You'll probably find the installers were up against it on a new technology.

[Martin_1962]

I make the point of not mentioning who did it - don't fancy legal letters but I will tell the truth about the install when asked.

Only reason I chose them was proximity to my home.

My last car had the pieces of copper pipe on hoses as well, it was fine for the test drive and part way home that first night.

It kept over pressuring the injectors (never sorted), then a few days later started misfiring and cutting to petrol (melting loom)

Just wish I had never seen the place - or there was another installer nearby (or I realised that it wasn't that difficult)

[Martin_1962]

I thought about doing LPG conversions for my family and close friends and it's cases like this that put me off.  I would consider you pretty lucky to have your conversion go smoothly from its original install and first map.  As most of you with LPG know problems with LPG can arise from out of nowhere.  

On the LPG forum he has always been very helpful to others and his advice has always been good and informative.  I've never had help from him personally but do sympathise with him for the fact that LPG installs can be so unpredictable especially in the first weeks of an install.

I have seen some of these posts - but mine was in hindsight not a good install, I should have realised after a week of it not done. The only bits I didn't redo on the reinstallation was the pipes from manifold to injectors, so when he said I copied him (which I refuted) all he saw was the manifold to injector pipes, he didn't see the vaporiser under the airbox, he didn't see the pressure sensors on the drivers side iner wing, nor the pipework following the petrol pipes, nor the wiring fed through the car.

I manually tweaked the mixtures - just modified until it ran well - this does need fiddling though!!!!

Just wondering if it was worth connecting a lambda probe up as there is no lambda connection in the system - but wires are there as is the software screen.

As to putting the injector straws in the same place, well there is only one place they would go - if I redid it now I would go next to the petrol injectors.

To be honest I would recommend anyone who understands cars and does their own maintenance to DIY

[rickyboy]

Mine uses the lambda probe to adjust the mixture.  Never had any experience of LPG without using one.  I would say it's definitely a good idea.