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[the alarming man]

Had a 2.0dti hire car which wouldn't top a ton, and that was an '02

My 2.0 DTI I had went very well at a ton it was just cruising....

[Andy H]

I should add, no idea what's normal on these. My old L series Rover 400s pulled well all the way to 5k, and would easy redline in the first 3 gears

My experience of diseasals is limited to tractors and hired lorries & vans (7.5 ton tail lift, luton 3.5 ton? and various LWB high top VW & Citroen vans).

All of the vans seemed to have a similar sweet spot. They would run down to idle and up to the red line but if you want to make progress then there was no point in letting the revs stray out of the 2000 - 3300 band.

I had assumed that diesel engines in cars would be tuned to behave more like petrol engines 

[05omegav6]

A diesel lump is a diesel lump whether it's fitted to a generator or a fishing boat...

The only characteristic difference is down to gearing

[the alarming man]

and the turbo bolted onto it might have a little some thing to do with available power

[Andy H]

and the ECU can play tunes with fueling, timing, boost pressure (especially if the turbo has variable vanes) and throttle response to mask the basic characteristics.

[VXL V6]

Equally, while I may not be a fan of people carriers and manual gearboxes, I have to admit, Mrs VXL's Alhambra 1.9 TDi 130 would leave her old 2.2DTi standing and out accelerate it at any speed. The chassis is a fair bit stiffer as well but FWD torque steer is something I've lived without for so long I'd almost forgot about it!

Seats with the side bolsters are a bit narrow though for my frame!

[TheBoy]

I should add, no idea what's normal on these. My old L series Rover 400s pulled well all the way to 5k, and would easy redline in the first 3 gears

tbh I had 2 of them a old shape 2.0 DTI auto which went like a bat out of hell...then a 1.9 cdti manual and that was dreadfully slow getting to 50....after that it went quite well

That depends on definition of bat out of hell. I'm sure mine is quite normal in its power band, but even here, its far from quick. Adequate maybe.

[TheBoy]

Equally, while I may not be a fan of people carriers and manual gearboxes, I have to admit, Mrs VXL's Alhambra 1.9 TDi 130 would leave her old 2.2DTi standing and out accelerate it at any speed. The chassis is a fair bit stiffer as well but FWD torque steer is something I've lived without for so long I'd almost forgot about it!

Seats with the side bolsters are a bit narrow though for my frame!

Blimey, no hope for the rest of us then

[TheBoy]

Had a 2.0dti hire car which wouldn't top a ton, and that was an '02

Not tried in ages, but last time I did (it might have still been *really* bad back then), 95 downhill. And that was after some winding up to get it there.

[YZ250]

...of shitbox Zafiras, but the Battlebus has taken us up to the Lakes for the last week, and brought us back safely, without missing a beat, or complaining (too much) about going up and down all the passes. Used over 2 full tanks of diesel, and averaged just under 37mpg.

Needs a wash now.  Though that'll be a job for next year (unless I sell it this year).

It's a fair old pull for most vehicles up them passes so the bus did well. I often wonder if the car in front of me is going to make it. 

Equally, while I may not be a fan of people carriers and manual gearboxes, I have to admit, Mrs VXL's Alhambra 1.9 TDi 130 would leave her old 2.2DTi standing and out accelerate it at any speed.........

A family friend used to tow his caravan with an Alhambra and I must admit I was surprised at how well it pulled with the van on the back. 

[Andy B]

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There you go, that's where you ducked up...

If you'd bought the LWB one, you could carry five people and their luggage and it would still only cost £500 a year to tax

It is a LWB  Mine is a six seater ..... slightly later cars are 7  I specifically looked for the 6 as when set up for four people, there's a removable armrest between the rear passengers, the 7 seater has a 'half seat' between them.

In hindsight, the armrest is a PITA if you want to fold all the seats down ..... it gets in the way of the rear most (3rd row) seat squabs going flat so needs removing to do so.