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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #75 on: 31 July 2015, 14:40:04 »

Yes, it's not just the benefits situation, which we might be able to resolve, it's the availability of jobs here. They can get naff all in France because the French economy is stuffed.

Maybe we should vote in another Labour government and align our economy with France, Italy, Greece, Spain, etc... ;)
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #76 on: 31 July 2015, 14:55:57 »

How do you do that, though? I get the impression a great many of them are trafficked out of their country of origin by people who make millions out of that process as a business. Many of these people probably have little or no access to the internet so their knowledge of "England is a land of free stuff" will come from the people who stand to make money trafficking them here.

Even if you change the rules on benefits etc, do you think the traffickers will change their tune to those desperate to leave?

You'd still need direct action to eliminate the traffickers that the country of origin has no stomach for..

All interesting stuff.

We in Britain , along with other coutries like France, created the environment for this disgusting human trafficing. Libya is now a lawless country where bribes rule thanks to US getting rid of Ghaddafi. I knew we didn't have an end game. Lets not forget that these migrants (some of which speak better English than white people born and bred in the UK) are paying maybe £1000 for each leg of a journey to get to Britain to a trafficer with no guarantee that they will get to the promised land . Let us not forget either that successive governments of whatever political hue have welcomed migrants. Like it or not Britain needed and still needs foreign workers to do the menial jobs at low pay in order to keep prices down for everyone else. That is the main reason we haven't closed our borders. This government is addressing the welfare issues that make Britain an attractive destination. A question you could do with asking your PM is why the UK have opted out of the EU law that allows a country to demand an immigrant (even from another EU country) shows means to support themselves including buying healthcare. That is what Spain does and consequently is not a country of choice for Africans.

As Aaron says it would be nice to see the EU collectively doing something in Africa and the Middle East instead of leaving the Italians and Greeks in the lurch. Ain't going to happen.
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« Reply #77 on: 31 July 2015, 15:19:01 »

That is true. The root of the problem is in our meddling in these places. We aren't capable of supporting the evacuation of the whole of the middle east, so we really need to sort the place out. The thing we have failed to understand is that a ruthless dictator is the only system of government that will work there. Having removed a few of those, putting them back will be a bit toxic, politically, as will putting boots on the ground, or anything else that will help resolve the problem. Maybe the migrant issue will get to be bad enough that these options start to look more palatable?
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