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[GastronomicKleptomaniac]

Getting a bit close to Gastroland there STMO...

And don't be so soft - Ive done Sutton Bank in a 1.2 Corsa B, four up - including 17 stone of me and 15 stone of brother in law...

(though I think I set a new record for most gearchanges in a single journey...)

[pscocoa]

My Astra SE is a 1600 and is not great at pulling away from lights. Not bad car if I did higher mileage in it I would have gone for the GTC. Only done 1400 miles since January. Only getting 27 mpg on these short journeys and it is an Auto.

[STEMO]

My Astra SE is a 1600 and is not great at pulling away from lights. Not bad car if I did higher mileage in it I would have gone for the GTC. Only done 1400 miles since January. Only getting 27 mpg on these short journeys and it is an Auto.

I've done 5000 miles since May, Phil. I'm actually getting used to anticipating hills and the like and being low enough down the box to keep up speed. Plus, as I've said, 40mpg.

[pscocoa]

On board computer says 27mpg but the petrol seems to last a long time. I was filling up the Omega every 10 days or so.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

My Astra SE is a 1600 and is not great at pulling away from lights. Not bad car if I did higher mileage in it I would have gone for the GTC. Only done 1400 miles since January. Only getting 27 mpg on these short journeys and it is an Auto.

I've done 5000 miles since May, Phil. I'm actually getting used to anticipating hills and the like and being low enough down the box to keep up speed. Plus, as I've said, 40mpg.

I do like the shape of the new Astra and for a 'load lugger' the estate is more aesthetically pleasing than most.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

On board computer says 27mpg but the petrol seems to last a long time. I was filling up the Omega every 10 days or so.

I suspect this is likely to be an optimistic figure. I can't imagine car manufacturers allowing computers that show a figure  worse than the reality.

[STEMO]

My Astra SE is a 1600 and is not great at pulling away from lights. Not bad car if I did higher mileage in it I would have gone for the GTC. Only done 1400 miles since January. Only getting 27 mpg on these short journeys and it is an Auto.

I've done 5000 miles since May, Phil. I'm actually getting used to anticipating hills and the like and being low enough down the box to keep up speed. Plus, as I've said, 40mpg.

I do like the shape of the new Astra and for a 'load lugger' the estate is more aesthetically pleasing than most.

Ellesmere Port are already tooling up for the 2016 model, so bargains to be had soon.

[STEMO]

On board computer says 27mpg but the petrol seems to last a long time. I was filling up the Omega every 10 days or so.

I haven't got the dubious luxury of a fuel computer, but I trust my brim-to-brim method more.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

My Astra SE is a 1600 and is not great at pulling away from lights. Not bad car if I did higher mileage in it I would have gone for the GTC. Only done 1400 miles since January. Only getting 27 mpg on these short journeys and it is an Auto.

I've done 5000 miles since May, Phil. I'm actually getting used to anticipating hills and the like and being low enough down the box to keep up speed. Plus, as I've said, 40mpg.

I do like the shape of the new Astra and for a 'load lugger' the estate is more aesthetically pleasing than most.

Ellesmere Port are already tooling up for the 2016 model, so bargains to be had soon.

Fooking hell....it seems to me that 'the old model' has only been available for five minutes.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

On board computer says 27mpg but the petrol seems to last a long time. I was filling up the Omega every 10 days or so.

I haven't got the dubious luxury of a fuel computer, but I trust my brim-to-brim method more.

Likely to be more accurate.

[STEMO]

The 'around town' figure of 40mpg is very good, but the advertised 60mpg on the motorway is way too optimistic. It might just be achievable at a constant 55mph, but at around 75 you get no more than 42-43.

Btw, to get my 40mpg, there's a lot of short-shifting going on.

[BazaJT]

I like the look of the GTC model,although the rest of the range aren't bad.The Astra has grown into a surprisingly large car,outwardly at least.Don't know how they're fixed for interior space.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I like the look of the GTC model,although the rest of the range aren't bad.The Astra has grown into a surprisingly large car,outwardly at least.Don't know how they're fixed for interior space.

Each new model of car seems to be wearing a 'fat suit' when compared with the last.

[Rods2]

I like the look of the GTC model,although the rest of the range aren't bad.The Astra has grown into a surprisingly large car,outwardly at least.Don't know how they're fixed for interior space.

Each new model of car seems to be wearing a 'fat suit' when compared with the last.

That is where the manufacturers are chasing safety stars. The bigger the car the more space and energy dissipation by the crumple zone before the occupants are injured.