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[Lazydocker]

Sorry... But there should be a greater emphasis placed on the cyclist in London. I will bet my house that next time I drive into London (2.5 weeks time if not before) there will be at least one cyclist jump a red light and at least one come up the inside when I am indicating to turn left

Some very good ideas, in principle, but mostly another bout of Lorry Driver Bashing

Perhaps Boris should go out in a lorry for a day and see what it's really like trying to watch for stupid car drivers, box junctions, lights, suicidal pedestrians and lunatic, law flouting cyclists

Oh FFS. Every day I see car/lorry drivers using a mobile, texting, jumping a red light, tailgating, engaging in road rage, applying make up, fiddling with hair, smoking, drinking, eating sarnies, peeing in a bottle etc etc etc. I could go on. The only ones who die are the cyclists who get run over by said car/truck drivers. Get some perspective. 

Why do cyclists drive up the inside? Because the frigging cycle lane is painted on the flipping left of the road. Thats why. Because the moronic road designers have no clue.
Why do they ride in the middle of the road? Because the road surface is so poor that they choose to ride a bit more into the middle of the road and avoid deathtrap drains and potholes that could potentially kill them.
Why do they set off a second before the light turns green. So that the idiot in the car behind doesnt try to kill them with their reckless driving.

Oh no. Blame the poor cyclist who chooses to make your journey slightly easier by reducing congestion, make the air your children breath better by reducing emissions. Yup target the weaker road user. That makes sense.

Seriously fed up with cycle bashing folk who have never been on a push bike in traffic.

As usual, certain people can't help but think this thread is about cycle bashing. It's not... It's about a stupid proposal. There are drivers of all vehicles flouting the law and I agree that cyclists are vulnerable. Because of this they should be more defensive. I'm not talking about setting off a few seconds early, I refer to the retards who blatantly ignore red lights.

Should have actually read what I posted

Oh... And for the record - I have cycled in heavy traffic. I also rode a motorcycle and drove HGVs in heavy traffic too. Additionally I've cleared up the mess left behind after accidents caused by all parties. But, of course, I was just bashing the cyclist

Sorry, I seem to have quoted your post. Intention was simply to reply to comments on thread, not direct the response at you per se.

Ok

[Andy B]

On my way home from work tonight there was a unicyclist on the road ..... a fast NSL road too!  I'm sure there are safer places to unicycle 

[STEMO]

On my way home from work tonight there was a unicyclist on the road ..... a fast NSL road too!  I'm sure there are safer places to unicycle 

A runway a Heathrow 

[TheBoy]

Sadly, because I hate the place with a passion, I have to go into Oxford a lot.  As a pedestrian in Oxford, you have to use the pavements and crossings defensively, because in Oxford, and cyclist has the moral highground, and thus has full right of way over anybody else, be that on pedestrian crossings, pavements, pedestrianised areas, or in the indoor shopping centres.

Having been knocked over by a cyclist on a pelican crossing in London, I guess its no different there.


On the upside, he buggered his wheel on the railings after bouncing off me.

Me: "Did that hurt"
idiot: groaning, "Yeah"
Me: "Serves you bloody well right"

[biggriffin]

Not one person has grasped the simplistic stupidity of this, try and organise a multi drop load and tell driver remember no left turn, there are delivery points in London that are only accessible buy turning left, there are TFL and network rail depots that when the truck is 80ft long yes 80ft can only turn left, as usual another knee jerk reaction to a problem that can be solved by education.
 bring back cycling proficiency test, and advert's on tv showing what happen,when hgv turns left.

[bigegg]

"bring back cycling proficiency"

+1 and then some:
I think; nay: honestly believe; that part of the driving test should be at least 20hrs spent as a cyclist...

a little bit of consideration for other road users goes a loooong way

and don't get me started on fork lift drivers...

[deviator]

I honestly can't see how this would work. If you banned lorries from turning left, EVERY roundabout would be full of lorry drivers not going in circles because every roundabout would be blocked up by lorries. 

As a general rule, I think some cyclists are a good thing. If everyone drove a car, my journeys would take a lot longer. The ones I have problems with are the ones who think they should own the road, everyone else should give way, they are always right and they feel a morale superiority of everyone else, including pedestrians.

What I don't understand is the point A to point A riders out there. They drive a car to some lovely countryside to unload a bike and go for a ride 2, 3 and 4 a breast without concern for the chaos they cause behind them. Pull in every now and then, ride single file with gaps, USE YOUR BRAIN. To be honest, if I wanted to ride in the countryside, the last place I would consider is some twisty, windy A/B road full of traffic. I'd go find a nice country park and ride around there. The scenery is better and your less likely to end up as road kill.

[aaronjb]

You don't understand deviator - they need to train for the next Tour De France! Drafting, riding several abreast, getting run over by TV crews..

[deviator]

You don't understand deviator - they need to train for the next Tour De France! Drafting, riding several abreast, getting run over by TV crews..

It's only a shame the Police stopped the fun....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofXHKEe1yYk

[aaronjb]

There's no facepalm big enough.

[bigegg]

There's no facepalm big enough.

although 400Tonnes doing 80mph would come pretty close