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[Migalot]

So now it's been liberated, the House is debating how to get involved. They really don't have a clue.

This lass does, though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VNQGsiP8M

I URGE YOU TO WATCH IT ALL

 

[Mister Rog]

No time to watch all the way through . . . . . quite lengthy

It's just so hard to know the real truth, as she says, we get spoon fed news and views, and Joe Public (including me) generally swallows it.

I do have my views on the whole "Arab Spring" thing. Yes many of the governing regimes were not exactly top of any Nice Guy lists, but of all of the countries involved are any of them better off now ? That is a genuine question, I'd like opinions.

The West is always very keen to point a finger and call "Tyrant" or whatever, and give moral and maybe material support to rebels, but that's as far as it goes in any major way. Iraq is still unresolved, Assad dug his heels in and now looks like winning, both factors have led to the rise is ISIS. Syria has always had close ties to Russia, those ties are now even closer.

I wish I had an answer, but on the evidence so far my view is "keep out". 

[Migalot]

No time to watch all the way through . . . . . quite lengthy

No disrespect, Rog, but that is the problem. People want fast-food news and the likes of the BBC duly oblige. To get to the facts, one needs to devote time. I appreciate that most have better things to do — myself included — but I never like to take things at face value. That is why I never watch TV news (especially BBC, but also Sky) and have to go digging to find out the real issues.

If you get a chance later, do watch it all. Whilst it is about Aleppo, it reveals a great deal about our media in general.   

[Sir Tigger KC]

I watched it all and it's interesting, particularly at the end where she says that the western corporate media has no one on the ground in Aleppo and they get their information from the Syrian Observatory based in London.  I'm sure I've seen Jeremy Bowen reporting for the BBC from Aleppo? 

Having said that, much of what she says may well be true and over the last few months I've watched RT now and again, as their coverage of Syria is much more comprehensive than the BBC, ITN or SKY whose coverage does seem pretty sketchy.  I do keep the salt pot handy mind when watching RT! 

So talking of RT and our Canadian 'independent' journalist.  Much of her terminology could be lifted straight from RT scripts, so do I think shes telling the truth?  Maybe.  Is she independent? Not on your nelly! 

[Migalot]

...they get their information from the Syrian Observatory based in London.

Not in London, not an "organisation" either. It's a one-man operation run from a two-bedroom Coventry home. 

[Migalot]

Aleppo: Fake news everywhere

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/12/-msm-create-fakenews-storm-as-rebel-aleppo-vanishes.html

Using a screenshot of an old music videos and pretending it's a girl running away after her family have been killed in Aleppo.

Just what can we believe?

Also, whoever the ISP in Aleppo is needs an industry award. Always up and loads of bandwidth. Try deepest Oxfordshire and nada, zilch. 

[Doctor Gollum]

I recall Monster Guffers comments at the time, when MP's were debating whether to support Assad/The Rebels (IS in all but name)/do nothing...

Likened to a choice of three shit sandwiches... All shit, and trying to choose which would be the most palpable.

For all his faults, and regardless of his intentions, Putin may well have been in the right

[Mister Rog]

Not wishing to trivialize this matter, there is one thing that puzzles the hell out of me . . . 

Reports etc from Alleppo, over the internet. What ! internet in a war zone. I frequently fail to even be able to check my email, How can they send video reports ?

[Migalot]

Not wishing to trivialize this matter, there is one thing that puzzles the hell out of me . . . 

Reports etc from Alleppo, over the internet. What ! internet in a war zone. I frequently fail to even be able to check my email, How can they send video reports ?

Precisely, Rog. It has not gone unnoticed on other chat boards.

[omega2018]

So now it's been liberated, the House is debating how to get involved. They really don't have a clue.

This lass does, though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1VNQGsiP8M

I URGE YOU TO WATCH IT ALL

 

thanks for that what a brilliant report.  worth watching to the end especially to find out the truth about the 'white helmets'.