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Re: Mig welders.
« Reply #15 on: 19 November 2016, 18:20:44 »

Hi

I bought my welder 3 years ago as an service returner for half price at my lokal OBI market. 120 €. Plus a gaspulle 80€ (not for rent, I am the owner), plus some additional parts (10kg wire and a helmet) I was on 280€ for are real usable welding section. I did 2 Omegas with that until today.

Not so bad  ;D

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Re: Mig welders.
« Reply #16 on: 19 November 2016, 22:52:00 »

I cant use an auto darkening helmet, ( maybe an old/cheap one ) the time delay is too much. the old fashioned flip down once correctly set up is spot on.
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Re: Mig welders.
« Reply #17 on: 21 November 2016, 13:25:56 »

I use both types, the modern (decent quality) auto darkening ones are mega quick and very very good.
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Re: Mig welders.
« Reply #18 on: 21 November 2016, 13:52:18 »

Ive ordered a Sealey PWH600,which seems decent quality.
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Re: Mig welders.
« Reply #19 on: 21 November 2016, 15:21:53 »

Should be fine.  :y

I also rate the Clarke as the best of the hobby welders, makes the likes of the SIP very poor.

On the thin stuff, with even the best welder, you end up doing more a 'join the dots' type approach.

Just get some scrap steel and lay some beads down, start with thick stuff and work down. Try playing with the wire feed rate as you weld on some scrap as you will soon feel and hear what is right/wrong!
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« Reply #20 on: 21 November 2016, 17:14:35 »

Will do, cheers.  :y
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Re: Mig welders.
« Reply #21 on: 07 February 2017, 17:41:32 »

Thought I would post an update on this. I expected I would struggle and I did. Attempts at welding resulted in what looked like chicken shit stuck to pieces of metal.
The first thing that helped was discovering that the glass inside my welding helmet had a protective sheet of plastic that needed to be peeled off. At least I could actually see what I was doing then.  :-[ ;D
I then put the welder away and did a bit of research and found some things which were a huge help.
Apparently the gas regulator on my welder - Clarke 135 TE - is a bit crap. its numbered 0 - 6, but no gas actually comes out until its turned to at least number 5.
Next thing was that apparently the most common fault with novices welding thin metal is holding the nozzle too far away from the metal being worked on. Apparently the nozzle should be almost touching the metal, but preferably not quite touching it.
Last thing was to run the bead away from yourself rather than towards yourself. Cant remember why tbh, but when I went back out and put all three of these into practice I immediately produced strong and acceptable looking welds. Frankly, I was amazed at the transformation, so I have now started to weld my old 190 back together.
I hope this may be of some help to someone else who has a bash at welding in the future.
Particularily the shouty man from Brackley, who I believe has the same machine, and has also struggled, iirc.  :y
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Re: Mig welders.
« Reply #22 on: 07 February 2017, 19:46:12 »

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Apparently the gas regulator on my welder - Clarke 135 TE - is a bit crap. its numbered 0 - 6, but no gas actually comes out until its turned to at least number 5.

Got that tea shirt. :y
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« Reply #23 on: 08 February 2017, 08:46:47 »

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Apparently the gas regulator on my welder - Clarke 135 TE - is a bit crap. its numbered 0 - 6, but no gas actually comes out until its turned to at least number 5.

Got that tea shirt. :y

Ditto!  ;D

And ditto on the rest of the advice, too.  I watched a view videos on YouTube from "weldingtipsandtricks" that were also highly instructional (though there's a lot more on there for TIG & stick than MIG, for some reason - I'd love a TIG machine but I can't quite justify the £700 or so for one!)
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Re: Mig welders.
« Reply #24 on: 10 February 2017, 01:16:44 »

should be able to get a new tig for £200 or a good one for £300  plus they often include a plasma cutter and MMA welder - one of these only cost me £325 new and that was 7 years ago
http://www.highweldingmachine.com/sale-8884396-inverter-tig-mma-cut-welder-welding-machine-ct-520-b2.html

i can confirm it will nicely cut 15mm thick steel  8)
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« Reply #25 on: 10 February 2017, 15:24:38 »

I was never sure how good they would be (there seem to be lots of them about under various names so I assume all made at Mao's Poundland), so I'd been looking at R-Tech.. that said, even they've come down in price quite a bit recently: http://www.r-techwelding.co.uk/tig-welder-240v-dc-160amp/

I don't think the R-Tech can be used as a plasma cutter though, and it would be neat to have both things in one box taking up less space.
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Re: Mig welders.
« Reply #26 on: 10 February 2017, 18:08:02 »

I do have a r-tech plasma cutter.  Every man should have a plasma cutter.

I as helped me easily fit an Omega radiator in the wheely bin. Before that, it got a dishwasher in the wheely bin, and a washing machine bar the concrete blocks - though I did have to use a hammer on the drum shell.
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