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[Doctor Gollum]

And that's the elephant in the room, because everyone thinks someone else should pay. 

STEMO probably thinks that the "rich southerners" should pay..

And sorry Tig, it doesn't get much more southern than darzet so.. tag, you're it!

As Homer Simpson once said... "Doh!". 

[Sir Tigger KC]

And that's the elephant in the room, because everyone thinks someone else should pay. 

STEMO probably thinks that the "rich southerners" should pay..

And sorry Tig, it doesn't get much more southern than darzet so.. tag, you're it!

As Homer Simpson once said... "Doh!". 

And I think that wealthy landowners in the East should pay.  Over to you Lord Opti! 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

And that's the elephant in the room, because everyone thinks someone else should pay. 

STEMO probably thinks that the "rich southerners" should pay..

And sorry Tig, it doesn't get much more southern than darzet so.. tag, you're it!

As Homer Simpson once said... "Doh!". 

And I think that wealthy landowners in the East should pay.  Over to you Lord Opti! 

..

I'm thinking of changing my name to 'Opti the destitute'....

I agree with STMO. It's all the fault of southern bed-wetting shandy drinkers ......and yes that does include Sir Tig.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Nothing wrong with a good pint of shandy!      Maybe they'll learn how to make one north of Bristol one day.     

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Liz Truss is going to give a statement to the house, re: public sector pay, after PMQ's.

Well...there yer go...no change in government policy. We can all shut up now

No change in government policy until Theresa is about to be knifed in the back by her own party like the great patriotic woman who saved the country from  socialist ruin in the eighties.

Your learning. 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

I said it before and I'll say it again.  If we want well funded public services we have to be prepared to pay for them. 

And that's the elephant in the room, because everyone thinks someone else should pay. 

We already pay for them, but the idiots who run them from the useless managers to the hateful unions waste much of the money and cover up the fact that they are collectively a bunch of retards, and constsantly say the only problem is a lack of funding.
New Labour more than doubled the NHS budget, and did similar to schools and the end result that they were a bloody sight worse than before.
It isn't about money, despite what the BBC keep telling us.

[Sir Tigger KC]

See? As soon as you tell people that they have to pay more for stuff, they turn round and tell you there's no problem!     

[2boxerdogs]

The only way is to have people with proper business acumen at the head not a bunch of educated idiots who have probably never done a proper days work in their lives.
As with all public services these idiots don't recognise their best assets are their staff, who having had a really raw deal with staff cuts etc still make the system work.

[aaronjb]

I hear Trump is a very successful businessman? 

[Doctor Gollum]

The only way is to have people with proper business acumen at the head not a bunch of educated idiots who have probably never done a proper days work in their lives.
As with all public services these idiots don't recognise their best assets are their staff, who having had a really raw deal with staff cuts etc still make the system work.

This requirement is not limited to the public sector

Welcome to the real world

[Sir Tigger KC]

The only way is to have people with proper business acumen......

These types will want paying properly, so taxes will have to go up!   

[Doctor Gollum]

The only way is to have people with proper business acumen......

These types will want paying properly, so taxes will have to go up!   

They are already far overpaid for what they achieve...

All you need are well trained, dedicated staff who are able to think on their feet. Management needs to understand that the 'shop floor' actually knows how to do their respective jobs efficiently, and only require common sense and initiative to effectively control resource allocation.

Unfortunately management tends to comprise of people unable to work on the 'shop floor'. Paying crap public sector management more will achieve no more than it would in the private sector... ie costs rise and efficiency plummets.

Why this is such a surprise in the public sector is beyond me

[2boxerdogs]

Seems to be going round in circles now this topic I'm out.

[omega2018]

I hear Trump is a very successful businessman? 

in between his 6 bankruptcies