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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #30 on: 22 August 2008, 08:30:30 »

Ive got video footage of me wrestling with a shop lifter for about 10 minutes. He never made it out of the store, but the CD radio cassette he had hidden in his coat was a give away that he didn't intend to pay for it. The Police were really good, they took him away, he admitted the offence because he was a drug addict and wanted out as soon as possible.
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #31 on: 22 August 2008, 08:48:16 »

Sadly I fear its not money well spent.

I have always been of the belief that you need to address the core issues affecting productivity before ever expanding or throwing extra money at anything.

So, address the excess paper work and get the Police doing what they are best at, Policing. Then review the situation before throwing more people at it and over loading the already struggling force with new recruits.

Its a rather stupid idea

Plus, where is the cash coming from, were already spending way more than we can afford to on mega in-efficient public services (NHS is the classic example!).

Golden ruls of anything like this, you never throw extra resources at an in-efficient organisation a they will just 'consume' the extra without generating any extra output
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #32 on: 22 August 2008, 08:54:21 »

not sure I can remember what a policeman looks like....   ....don't think they have been invented in Brackley yet...
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #33 on: 22 August 2008, 08:57:34 »

I catch the back end of a Police car driving past about once a month. I think the local pond life has sussed that for 29 to 30 days of the month, they have free reign :(
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #34 on: 22 August 2008, 10:04:51 »

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Sadly I fear its not money well spent.

I have always been of the belief that you need to address the core issues affecting productivity before ever expanding or throwing extra money at anything.

So, address the excess paper work and get the Police doing what they are best at, Policing. Then review the situation before throwing more people at it and over loading the already struggling force with new recruits.

Its a rather stupid idea

Plus, where is the cash coming from, were already spending way more than we can afford to on mega in-efficient public services (NHS is the classic example!).

Golden ruls of anything like this, you never throw extra resources at an in-efficient organisation a they will just 'consume' the extra without generating any extra output

Valid points for the most - but I would also add that they need to work on the retention of the ones they currently have, in terms of development, opportunities, etc.
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #35 on: 22 August 2008, 10:06:01 »

and.... don't get me started on the NHS  :-X
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #36 on: 22 August 2008, 10:10:32 »

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Sadly I fear its not money well spent.

I have always been of the belief that you need to address the core issues affecting productivity before ever expanding or throwing extra money at anything.

So, address the excess paper work and get the Police doing what they are best at, Policing. Then review the situation before throwing more people at it and over loading the already struggling force with new recruits.

Its a rather stupid idea

Plus, where is the cash coming from, were already spending way more than we can afford to on mega in-efficient public services (NHS is the classic example!).

Golden ruls of anything like this, you never throw extra resources at an in-efficient organisation a they will just 'consume' the extra without generating any extra output

Valid points for the most - but I would also add that they need to work on the retention of the ones they currently have, in terms of development, opportunities, etc.


Which adding more personel wont do and it shouldn't just be pay rises as the public budget cant support that. They need to be getting job satisfaction which I suspect is sadly lacking at the moment.

Fix the existing before throwing more man power at it!
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #37 on: 22 August 2008, 10:12:58 »

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Sadly I fear its not money well spent.

I have always been of the belief that you need to address the core issues affecting productivity before ever expanding or throwing extra money at anything.

So, address the excess paper work and get the Police doing what they are best at, Policing. Then review the situation before throwing more people at it and over loading the already struggling force with new recruits.

Its a rather stupid idea

Plus, where is the cash coming from, were already spending way more than we can afford to on mega in-efficient public services (NHS is the classic example!).

Golden ruls of anything like this, you never throw extra resources at an in-efficient organisation a they will just 'consume' the extra without generating any extra output

Valid points for the most - but I would also add that they need to work on the retention of the ones they currently have, in terms of development, opportunities, etc.

Agreed.

My area recently parted company with the following.
Class one car driver
Security Escort Driver
Convoy Commander
Class one motorcyclist & instructor
Crash Investigator
ANPR Developer & Instructor
Firearms Officer & Sniper
VASCAR instructor
Tracker instructor
Tacho instructor
etcetcetc....
....ME!   :(

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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #38 on: 22 August 2008, 10:30:20 »

I didn't realise you were firearms trained too  :-?
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #39 on: 22 August 2008, 14:35:41 »

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Sadly I fear its not money well spent.

I have always been of the belief that you need to address the core issues affecting productivity before ever expanding or throwing extra money at anything.

So, address the excess paper work and get the Police doing what they are best at, Policing. Then review the situation before throwing more people at it and over loading the already struggling force with new recruits.

Its a rather stupid idea

Plus, where is the cash coming from, were already spending way more than we can afford to on mega in-efficient public services (NHS is the classic example!).

Golden ruls of anything like this, you never throw extra resources at an in-efficient organisation a they will just 'consume' the extra without generating any extra output

Valid points for the most - but I would also add that they need to work on the retention of the ones they currently have, in terms of development, opportunities, etc.

Agreed.

My area recently parted company with the following.
Class one car driver
Security Escort Driver
Convoy Commander
Class one motorcyclist & instructor
Crash Investigator
ANPR Developer & Instructor
Firearms Officer & Sniper
VASCAR instructor
Tracker instructor
Tacho instructor
etcetcetc....
....ME!   :(


Do you have daughters H21 ??? If so the prospective boyfriends must have been bricking it on the first meet with dad !!!!!
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #40 on: 22 August 2008, 14:46:10 »

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Sadly I fear its not money well spent.

I have always been of the belief that you need to address the core issues affecting productivity before ever expanding or throwing extra money at anything.

So, address the excess paper work and get the Police doing what they are best at, Policing. Then review the situation before throwing more people at it and over loading the already struggling force with new recruits.

Its a rather stupid idea

Plus, where is the cash coming from, were already spending way more than we can afford to on mega in-efficient public services (NHS is the classic example!).

Golden ruls of anything like this, you never throw extra resources at an in-efficient organisation a they will just 'consume' the extra without generating any extra output

Valid points for the most - but I would also add that they need to work on the retention of the ones they currently have, in terms of development, opportunities, etc.

Agreed.

My area recently parted company with the following.
Class one car driver
Security Escort Driver
Convoy Commander
Class one motorcyclist & instructor
Crash Investigator
ANPR Developer & Instructor
Firearms Officer & Sniper
VASCAR instructor
Tracker instructor
Tacho instructor
etcetcetc....
....ME!   :(


Do you have daughters H21 ??? If so the prospective boyfriends must have been bricking it on the first meet with dad !!!!!

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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #41 on: 23 August 2008, 16:55:40 »

Of course, it doesn't help that overseas police forces (especially Canadian ones, for some reason) see the poor working conditions, not particularly good pay and overwhelming paperwork as an opportunity to send recruiting teams here to grab those officers we have spent serious money training.  

Some probationers get lured away as soon as they've finished their basic training.
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #42 on: 23 August 2008, 18:48:28 »

Broocie was the actual Bond that Sean Connery acted out :o

And Broocie is better lookin ;)
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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #43 on: 23 August 2008, 18:49:41 »

James, are trying get into the Police Force? :o

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Re: On the subject of Police Officers...
« Reply #44 on: 23 August 2008, 19:09:15 »

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James, are trying get into the Police Force? :o


They keep asking him to accompany them to the station -- if that's what you mean  ::)
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