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[henryd]

Yes, anyone buying one with their own money for 3-5yrs of average mileage is going to get completely battered.

Stick with it for 100k+ on the other hand....

Depreciation will be replaced by battery replacement costs.

I've seen Teslas with 200k on the dial as airport taxis and range still good

[Doctor Gollum]

Yes, anyone buying one with their own money for 3-5yrs of average mileage is going to get completely battered.

Stick with it for 100k+ on the other hand....

Depreciation will be replaced by battery replacement costs.

At 100k, doubtful.

Buy the car for whatever imaginary mnumber passes for market value, lose 75% of that in depreciation then after an as yet undiscoveredileage replace the battery for twice what the car is worth or throw it away and write off the whole amount.

Better off putting the entire purchase price on red.

[Doctor Gollum]

Just seen an ad for the latest Grandland EV... £435 a month PCP and NO option to purchase.

[STEMO]

Just seen an ad for the latest Grandland EV... £435 a month PCP and NO option to purchase.

You can pay £33-37,000 up front for the hybrid, if that floats your boat.

[Doctor Gollum]

Just seen an ad for the latest Grandland EV... £435 a month PCP and NO option to purchase.

You can pay £33-37,000 up front for the hybrid, if that floats your boat.

Er, no. Thanks though

[Marks DTM Calib]

Hybrids seem to be the ones struggling with battery reliability, the Merc, BMW and Audi ones look to get to about 70kish with Prius and similar dumping theirs closer to 100k (probably as most of the early ones were not Li-Ion tech).

But those batteries do not have such advanced battery management and cooling, plus they are lower current cells and driven very hard

[ronnyd]

My eldest has a Nissan Joke hybrid. The range on battery is abysmal, about two or three miles. Why bother i asked. 

[STEMO]

My eldest has a Nissan Joke hybrid. The range on battery is abysmal, about two or three miles. Why bother i asked. 

So he can sneak in without waking the wife up 

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

My eldest has a Nissan Joke hybrid. The range on battery is abysmal, about two or three miles. Why bother i asked. 

So he can sneak in without waking the wife up 

......or return home from boning his secretary without waking the wife up.

[Doctor Gollum]

My eldest has a Nissan Joke hybrid. The range on battery is abysmal, about two or three miles. Why bother i asked. 

So he can sneak in without waking the wife up 

......or return home from boning his secretary without waking the wife up.

Trouble is, when he first got the car, he was too busy showing off all it's quirks and features to his wife that he forgets that he downloaded the car's app to her phone and used her birthday as the pass code...

[ronnyd]

God, you lot.   

[YZ250]

I see that Porsche has abandoned its goal of having 80% of new sales being electric by 2030.   
The company now says it will only meet that goal if customer demand for EVs increases, which isn’t likely, so Porsche is reconsidering its plans for future models, and some previously planned all-electric vehicles may be developed with hybrid or combustion engine options.
The company has cited a lack of demand from customers as the reason for abandoning its EV sales target.
VW (part of the same group I believe) have taken similar steps by indicating a shift away from their initial "all-in" approach, with plans to incorporate more plug-in hybrid models.
Oh dear, perhaps other manufacturers will join them.

[Doctor Gollum]

I see that Porsche has abandoned its goal of having 80% of new sales being electric by 2030.   
The company now says it will only meet that goal if customer demand for EVs increases, which isn’t likely, so Porsche is reconsidering its plans for future models, and some previously planned all-electric vehicles may be developed with hybrid or combustion engine options.
The company has cited a lack of demand from customers as the reason for abandoning its EV sales target.
VW (part of the same group I believe) have taken similar steps by indicating a shift away from their initial "all-in" approach, with plans to incorporate more plug-in hybrid models.
Oh dear, perhaps other manufacturers will join them.

The jumped up 'people will by twice as many if we make it more expensive' approach to marketing may just be starting to lose its effectiveness.

[Doctor Gollum]

If a base VW Polo costs £12,300 in Brazil. It should cost that wherever it's sold. Yet here they start at £20,300.

I bet they sell more in Brazil.

[STEMO]

Concentrating on plug in hybrids is fine, unless you can't fit a home charger. Then it's no more use than an EV.