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Re: One for TB.....if he has £24995 down the sofa.
« Reply #1 on: 07 April 2026, 13:42:01 »

Poverty spec car.  And with the EU6 soot chucker.

I'll stick to the Big Black Pussy, its only done a couple more miles (171k) ;D
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« Reply #2 on: 07 April 2026, 14:48:21 »

Poverty spec car.  And with the EU6 soot chucker.

I'll stick to the Big Black Pussy, its only done a couple more miles (171k) ;D

The thick end of £25000 for an almost 10 year old car sounds optimistic to me. :)
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Re: One for TB.....if he has £24995 down the sofa.
« Reply #3 on: 07 April 2026, 16:12:35 »

The soot chuckers are incredible popular in the UK, and it is near poverty spec - if you can call any XJ poverty - so I think its optimistic, but it has sold. Some people get hung up on low mileage ;)

That sort of money should buy a decent V8 petrol, probably not quite a decent XJR, and definitely not an XJR575 (which I wouldn't mind myself!)
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« Reply #4 on: 07 April 2026, 18:45:54 »

The soot chuckers are incredible popular in the UK, and it is near poverty spec - if you can call any XJ poverty - so I think its optimistic, but it has sold. Some people get hung up on low mileage ;)

That sort of money should buy a decent V8 petrol, probably not quite a decent XJR, and definitely not an XJR575 (which I wouldn't mind myself!)


Last of the line and manufactured in small numbers. Could become an appreciating classic......like the mighty Signum. :)
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Re: One for TB.....if he has £24995 down the sofa.
« Reply #5 on: 09 April 2026, 09:13:56 »

Before I bought the 435i Grand Coupe petrol BMW, which I do miss in some ways (especially the noise) - But not for it's ride or impact on the wallet for fuel....

I strongly looked at XJ' with the Euro 6 diesel, from what I could see their architecture was very much compromised for the additional emissions restrictions. Much like the 3.0 and 3.2's of the Omega days.

But with far more expensive issues and appeared to eat throttle bodies for breakfast and appeared to have far more issues than Euro 5 3.0 diesels.

I did see a rather rare 3.0 supercharged petrol XJ which I nearly went to look at. But I struggled for the high end spec in 3.0 petrol and the Euro6 diesels looked unreliable so went BMW in the end.

Although seeing fuel at £1.93 for DERV on the way into work today, glad I'm not owning one these days! 
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Re: One for TB.....if he has £24995 down the sofa.
« Reply #6 on: 09 April 2026, 10:09:16 »

I strongly looked at XJ' with the Euro 6 diesel, from what I could see their architecture was very much compromised for the additional emissions restrictions. Much like the 3.0 and 3.2's of the Omega days.

But with far more expensive issues and appeared to eat throttle bodies for breakfast and appeared to have far more issues than Euro 5 3.0 diesels.
The EU6 Ford/Pug TDV6 runs at far lower cylinder temps than the otherwise near identical EU5 variant.  This leads to the sooty particulates being more "oily" than "dusty" and this starts to clog the EGRs, the throttle body and the inlets.  It also causes more oil dillution due to more active regens needed.  Would I avoid the EU6 variant?  Not if it was the car I wanted, just be mindful of it.

Both EU5 and EU6 variants (and the earlier 2.7 which uses a similar but slightly different design TB) don't eat throttle bodies.  But you will be replacing it once in the lifetime of the car, as the plastic weld splits.  Same with the coolant outlet, that splits a plastic weld, and stuffs all the coolant on the road.

All those era TDV6 engines on JLR products split intake manifolds. Not on a plastic weld.  Design is probably not the issue, just poor quality manufacture. They are time consuming to replace, and very expensive in labour if paying someone.

Again, none of these issues would put me off owning one if it was the car I wanted**.  In my experience, they are reliable cars*, but like any top end exec like S-Class or 7 series, need to be maintained properly.  I would say, and I think most would agree, that the X351 variant XJ drives far better than it's contemporaries like the S Class and 7 Series.  I do think, though, the S Class in particular is a nicer place for rear seat passengers, particularly taller ones.


* Not withstanding it's the only car I've had on a low loader twice.  But one of those was definitely my fault, will my mate Abbo's fault ;D, as I knew I had a noise I needed to investigate for weeks before driving it to Yorkshire, but spent every weekend getting the suspension on his Morgan ready for the trip...   ...and then he even up taking his company car!!

** The scare stores about Omegas when I bought my first were enough to make me even consider a Rover 800. You know, warping cam covers every week, poor ignition systems, blah blah.  None of it was particularly true.
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Re: One for TB.....if he has £24995 down the sofa.
« Reply #7 on: 09 April 2026, 11:27:17 »

I recall a thread on that Jagggg forum you recommended and I remember someone had a lovely fire red colour XJ. It had the EU6 engine and he has his throttle bodies replaced a great cost and they failed (or something related) within 2 years.

It was being discussed that rather critical engine parts were basically service parts on the EU6 lump.

To the point you might as well run a EU5 engine and just lump the ULEZ cost as the running costs of the EU6 were much higher.

My appetite for in-depth service work was/is not there anymore. It's gone down further hill recently with my zero maintenance addition to the fleet.  ;D
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Re: One for TB.....if he has £24995 down the sofa.
« Reply #8 on: 09 April 2026, 17:11:54 »

Both engines use the same throttle body (though the MAP is different, and an EU6 one is supplied with throttle bodies - no need to ask how I know that MAP doesn't work with an EU5!)

I'm sure some people will have bad luck, but they aint a massive problem.  Added to which, it's not a break down, it will just limp like mine did (limp on those diesel XJs means accerelating as fast as the traffic and easily cruising past 100mph (apparently, so I've heard, obviously I would never do such a thing).  The part is outrageously expensive now at around £350, and about 20m to change.

Forums do tend to be where you will see the worse of any car, obviously, and like arsebook a common place to rant that your car has failed because you didn't do basic maintenance.


As said, I would to suggest that people avoid the EU6 variant if it was the car they wanted.  I would highly recommend keeping to a 4k oil service interval, but I would suggest its retarded for any diesel to be taken beyond 4k unless it's a rental/lease/company car.  It's not the cheapest oil, so I reckon costs me around £25 to do, and takes about 20-30m, with most of that time drinking tea whilst it sucks out the oil.

It has marmite looks, particularly its arse, and it is wide and long.  Its defo not for everyone.
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