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Author Topic: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!  (Read 2370 times)

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michael.d.s.

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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: 10 November 2008, 17:40:30 »

the way i look at it is our atmosphere is roughly 20% oxygen the remainder is inert its only the o2 that is required for combustion. if i had a turbo charged engine and i fitted an intercooler the purpose of this would be to cool the incoming air charge thus increasing density and therefore increasing the volume of oxygen . however my plan is to increase the o2 volume without the drawback of increased inert gasses . am i making any sense or will i book myself into a self harm clinic . :-/
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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: 10 November 2008, 17:46:20 »

The point is, you can increase the amount of oxygen as much as you like but if the ECU doesn't deliver more fuel it will just go straight through the engine without making any difference. Turbocharge an engine, lower the intake charge temperature, etc. and the ECU can measure the increased air density, and add fuel accordingly. Add oxygen and it can't.

A tyre full of oxygen is very little, too, due to the low pressure it's at. An engine will get through that in a second or two.

I can think of more entertaining things to do with spare oxygen. And I have some, thinking about it. :-X

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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: 10 November 2008, 18:04:51 »

Let me know where to send the Condolence Card  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #18 on: 10 November 2008, 18:11:01 »

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Wont do anything....unless you add fuel to as the ECU has no concept of air with extra oxygen content and will be fueling based on the MAF reading.
What about exhaust lamda sensors? Won't they increase fuelling.

Or just give a fault because of disparity with MAF sensor...?
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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #19 on: 10 November 2008, 18:29:14 »

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Wont do anything....unless you add fuel to as the ECU has no concept of air with extra oxygen content and will be fueling based on the MAF reading.
What about exhaust lamda sensors? Won't they increase fuelling.

Or just give a fault because of disparity with MAF sensor...?

Lambda sensors are not active under full load, which I guess it where the OP would be when he opened up the taps. The engine runs "open loop" in this scenario.

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« Reply #20 on: 10 November 2008, 18:29:56 »

i could substitute the coolant sensor with a known resistance value to let the ecu think the engine is cold thus will enrichen the fuel mixture .
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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #21 on: 10 November 2008, 19:15:37 »

Give it up mate.  it's realy not going to work is it.

PS. Can i have your 3.0 cams after you've FUBAR'd the rest of the car?
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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #22 on: 10 November 2008, 19:21:00 »

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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #23 on: 10 November 2008, 21:48:21 »

Wont Work Trust Me! not without the extra fuel as already said! where about are you? people on here buy dead/dying miggys

it could even blow the engine up to pieces 3.0's have weak conrod's
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« Reply #24 on: 10 November 2008, 21:55:03 »

i'm in glasgow , its an ex plod finnished in lovely matt white all the brake pipes are rotten the hydraulic modulator is gubbed , left bank exhaust mani gasket is gone .  :'(
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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: 10 November 2008, 21:56:22 »

I think it will not be very good.

Oxygen is a brilliant activator.  It will increse the burn temperature and the expansion of the gases will be rapid.
I am thinking either melted pistons, or a lifted head.
I am all for stupid things being done in car, I have had my fair share of fun in old cars in fields etc, but I draw the line whn I think there is a significant risk of someone hurting themselves.

I think this may be one of those occasions.

How bad can your MV6 be!  Surely it is worth £100 to someone for bits.

If it were me I would I'd sell it to someone here to help another Miggy live on, rather than hurting yourself. :y
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Re: will it work or am i stupid !!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: 10 November 2008, 21:58:27 »

To coin a local black country saying.... TUP!
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