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Non starting scooter
« on: 17 February 2009, 22:15:13 »
Stepsons scooter would not start today. Well, last night to be honest, he said it has been getting worse. :-[

Only a 50cc, seen bigger lawnmower engines.  Anyway I get the job of ‘having a look at it’ ::) ::)

Well, from the smell you could tell that petrol was getting through, that leaves the spark. Problem is that it is a Scooter and therefore the engine is shrouded in plastic panels with just a couple of access panels than can be removed, enough to get my hand in. :-X

Took me over an hour, pulled the lead off and checked it that way,  Spark so need to get the plug out good job I have skinny arms and hands, Had To work blind.  >:(

Plug cleaner than expected, good spark so cleaned and put back in, what a pain.

So we have fuel and spark, still not starting. Eventually got it started but would not rev freely.

Removed air filter, expecting it to be totally clogged up, not bad so not blocked.  Anyway eventually got it started, jumped it of the new Gallant  battery that is not yet fitted. Now seems to be starting OK, washed the foam filter and will put it back on in the morning.  Could I have missed something, air filter not blocked, though was a bit greasy,  so a bit of a worry, have I actually fixed the problem. :-/

4 stroke engine. :y

Any thoughts???
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Re: Non starting scooter
« Reply #1 on: 17 February 2009, 22:17:43 »
Crappy plug.....  Once run and hot, restart should be fine.

If it was a 2 stroker, then that would bring in petrol/oil mix and other luverly stuff.  Best let the screaming Old Skool 2 stoke bikers talk that one out....   ;)
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Re: Non starting scooter
« Reply #2 on: 17 February 2009, 22:18:58 »
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Crappy plug.....  Once run and hot, restart should be fine.

If it was a 2 stroker, then that would bring in petrol/oil mix and other luverly stuff.  Best let the screaming Old Skool 2 stoke bikers talk that one out....   ;)
Freudian slip there B?
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Re: Non starting scooter
« Reply #3 on: 17 February 2009, 22:19:28 »
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Crappy plug.....  Once run and hot, restart should be fine.

If it was a 2 stroker, then that would bring in petrol/oil mix and other luverly stuff.  Best let the screaming Old Skool 2 stoke bikers talk that one out....   ;)

Sorry, should have said it is a 4 stroke.
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« Reply #4 on: 17 February 2009, 22:19:56 »
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Crappy plug.....  Once run and hot, restart should be fine.

If it was a 2 stroker, then that would bring in petrol/oil mix and other luverly stuff.  Best let the screaming Old Skool 2 stoke bikers talk that one out....   ;)
Freudian slip there B?

Well spotted, Cap'n....   :y

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« Reply #5 on: 17 February 2009, 22:20:13 »
maybe a sticking carb, does it smell like its overfuelling? i find a canof the compressed air handy for blowing out the carb every now and again, also I use irridium plugs now on my trials bike. far easier to start.

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« Reply #6 on: 17 February 2009, 22:21:46 »
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Crappy plug.....  Once run and hot, restart should be fine.

If it was a 2 stroker, then that would bring in petrol/oil mix and other luverly stuff.  Best let the screaming Old Skool 2 stoke bikers talk that one out....   ;)
Freudian slip there B?

Well spotted, Cap'n....   :y

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He's very quiet tonight, think he's up to something again.
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« Reply #7 on: 17 February 2009, 22:21:55 »
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maybe a sticking carb, does it smell like its overfuelling? i find a canof the compressed air handy for blowing out the carb every now and again, also I use irridium plugs now on my trials bike. far easier to start.


Certainly get a god smell of petrol tryig to start it, I felt that he had been flooding it.
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« Reply #8 on: 17 February 2009, 22:25:15 »
possible the float is sticking, that would make it overfuel and make the filter greasy as you say.

I would change the plug anyways to be safe, going to need done sooner or later.  :y
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Re: Non starting scooter
« Reply #9 on: 17 February 2009, 22:27:11 »
Try changing the HT cap.
It use to work in th 60's & 70's
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