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[Nickbat]

As well as "Not Evil, Just Wrong", there is another new film headed our way, entitled "Climate Chains". Hopefully, it will receive widespread broadcast. Here's a trailer: 

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gda33DLFGX4[/media]



Incidentally, with a cooling world and temperatures much as they were thirty years ago, it is not in slightest bit comforting to know there are some very dangerous and completely mad scientists around:

"THE Royal Society is backing research into simulated volcanic eruptions, spraying millions of tons of dust into the air, in an attempt to stave off climate change.

The society will this week call for a global programme of studies into geo-engineering — the manipulation of the Earth’s climate to counteract global warming..."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6814912.ece

Mad, utterly, utterly, mad. 

[Nickbat]

..and forget wind power...

"Denmark, the world's most wind-intensive nation, with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity, has yet to close a single fossil-fuel plant. It requires 50% more coal-generated electricity to cover wind power's unpredictability, and pollution and carbon dioxide emissions have risen (by 36% in 2006 alone)." 

http://utorontolaw.typepad.com/faculty_blog/2009/04/michael-trebilcock-wind-power-is-a-complete-disaster.html

[Dishevelled Den]

..and forget wind power...

"Denmark, the world's most wind-intensive nation, with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity, has yet to close a single fossil-fuel plant. It requires 50% more coal-generated electricity to cover wind power's unpredictability, and pollution and carbon dioxide emissions have risen (by 36% in 2006 alone)." 

http://utorontolaw.typepad.com/faculty_blog/2009/04/michael-trebilcock-wind-power-is-a-complete-disaster.html

...wind was never going to be the answer Nick. 

It is a very visible indication however that the spin put up by those with vested interests in this form of generation has been swallowed by the incompetents in government.

[Nickbat]

If you read this article, just published:

http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/08/global-cooling-has-begun-bob-foster/

...and compare it to the Royal Society's plans to research artificial volcanoes to blot out the sun's rays to stop warming (see my 7.57pm post), you'll understand why I think real science has gone AWOL. 

Incidentally, a past president of the Royal Society said it would be impossible for heavier-than-air machines to fly.    

[Dishevelled Den]

If you read this article, just published:

http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/2009/08/global-cooling-has-begun-bob-foster/

...and compare it to the Royal Society's plans to research artificial volcanoes to blot out the sun's rays to stop warming (see my 7.57pm post), you'll understand why I think real science has gone AWOL. 

Incidentally, a past president of the Royal Society said it would be impossible for heavier-than-air machines to fly.    

Indeed, I was looking at various proposals for this including sun shades in orbit, which is stretching things a bit.

However, when there is serious consideration given to attempting to alter the planetary atmosphere in this way you really have to ask the question - just what are they on?

[Banjax]

As well as "Not Evil, Just Wrong", there is another new film headed our way, entitled "Climate Chains". Hopefully, it will receive widespread broadcast. Here's a trailer: 

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gda33DLFGX4[/media]



Incidentally, with a cooling world and temperatures much as they were thirty years ago, it is not in slightest bit comforting to know there are some very dangerous and completely mad scientists around:

"THE Royal Society is backing research into simulated volcanic eruptions, spraying millions of tons of dust into the air, in an attempt to stave off climate change.

The society will this week call for a global programme of studies into geo-engineering — the manipulation of the Earth’s climate to counteract global warming..."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6814912.ece

Mad, utterly, utterly, mad. 

looks quite funny - whens it out? 

whats that guy on about bottled water? is that the best quote they could use?

Nick - if I do a little digging - am I going to find out this film is funded by right-wing loonballs?

I am aren't I? 

[Nickbat]

Doesn't matter who funds what. It's either true or not. Incidentally, the AGW campaign receives far more funds than the realist side. 

[Nickbat]

This thread seems as good a place as any for this nugget:

As hybrid cars gobble rare metals, shortage looms

"The Prius hybrid automobile is popular for its fuel efficiency, but its electric motor and battery guzzle rare earth metals, a little-known class of elements found in a wide range of gadgets and consumer goods.

That makes Toyota's market-leading gasoline-electric hybrid car and other similar vehicles vulnerable to a supply crunch predicted by experts as China, the world's dominant rare earths producer, limits exports while global demand swells.

Worldwide demand for rare earths, covering 15 entries on the periodic table of elements, is expected to exceed supply by some 40,000 tonnes annually in several years unless major new production sources are developed. One promising U.S. source is a rare earths mine slated to reopen in California by 2012."

Let's not deplete oil reserves (which are relatively abundant), let's use up the rare metals instead!

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN26285433

 

[Dishevelled Den]

This thread seems as good a place as any for this nugget:

As hybrid cars gobble rare metals, shortage looms

"The Prius hybrid automobile is popular for its fuel efficiency, but its electric motor and battery guzzle rare earth metals, a little-known class of elements found in a wide range of gadgets and consumer goods.

That makes Toyota's market-leading gasoline-electric hybrid car and other similar vehicles vulnerable to a supply crunch predicted by experts as China, the world's dominant rare earths producer, limits exports while global demand swells.

Worldwide demand for rare earths, covering 15 entries on the periodic table of elements, is expected to exceed supply by some 40,000 tonnes annually in several years unless major new production sources are developed. One promising U.S. source is a rare earths mine slated to reopen in California by 2012."

Let's not deplete oil reserves (which are relatively abundant), let's use up the rare metals instead!

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN26285433

 

I suppose I'd better order the replacement for my current Prius sooner rather than later then 8-)

[STMO999]

This thread seems as good a place as any for this nugget:

As hybrid cars gobble rare metals, shortage looms

"The Prius hybrid automobile is popular for its fuel efficiency, but its electric motor and battery guzzle rare earth metals, a little-known class of elements found in a wide range of gadgets and consumer goods.

That makes Toyota's market-leading gasoline-electric hybrid car and other similar vehicles vulnerable to a supply crunch predicted by experts as China, the world's dominant rare earths producer, limits exports while global demand swells.

Worldwide demand for rare earths, covering 15 entries on the periodic table of elements, is expected to exceed supply by some 40,000 tonnes annually in several years unless major new production sources are developed. One promising U.S. source is a rare earths mine slated to reopen in California by 2012."

Let's not deplete oil reserves (which are relatively abundant), let's use up the rare metals instead!

http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN26285433

 

I suppose I'd better order the replacement for my current Prius sooner rather than later then 8-)

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, as I couldn't possibly have read this lengthy tome of a thread, but the new beamer 330d is only about 3mpg short of the prius.

[Dishevelled Den]

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, as I couldn't possibly have read this lengthy tome of a thread, but the new beamer 330d is only about 3mpg short of the prius.

Nice to see you again ST  

It hasn't been mentioned before and you're right, the new BM has low emissions and good fuel ecomomy.

I'm happy with the Prius not wholly from the environmental perspective - which the jury's still out on - but because it suits my requirements in that it's relaxing to drive and reliable.

Others would take the BM for their own reasons