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[cem_devecioglu]

"Our results support the suggestion that hydrocarbons heavier than methane can be produced by abiogenic processes in the upper mantle."

Anton Kolesnikov, Vladimir G. Kutcherov &  Alexander F. Goncharov, published in Nature Geoscience, 26 July 2009

http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v2/n8/abs/ngeo591.html

Also

"Supporting Evidence, Briefly

Oil being discovered at 30,000 feet, far below the 18,000 feet where organic matter is no longer found.
Wells pumped dry later replenished.
Volume of oil pumped thus far not accountable from organic material alone according to present models.
In Situ production of methane under the conditions that exist in the Earth's upper mantle."

http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Theory/SustainableOil/

Like I said earlier, I'm not saying that I necessarily believe it all to be true, but it's very intriguing and also somewhat logical.

Good work Nickbat

we - (not me, scientists) know that complex hydrocarbon molecules can be made artificially or synthetically..also I remember somewhere else I read in a big jar filled with hydrogen, carbon and oxygen elements (gas form)  under a specific pressure and temperature if you apply high voltage beams you can obtain simple organic elements very similiar to the beginning of earths history.. :-?

but unfortunately we need more proof to say oil is formed in that way..(scientists say, not me)

however if oil can be produced economically in that way I would be more happy than many people as the fuel is 1.30 here

[Nickbat]

"Our results support the suggestion that hydrocarbons heavier than methane can be produced by abiogenic processes in the upper mantle."

Anton Kolesnikov, Vladimir G. Kutcherov &  Alexander F. Goncharov, published in Nature Geoscience, 26 July 2009

http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/v2/n8/abs/ngeo591.html

Also

"Supporting Evidence, Briefly

Oil being discovered at 30,000 feet, far below the 18,000 feet where organic matter is no longer found.
Wells pumped dry later replenished.
Volume of oil pumped thus far not accountable from organic material alone according to present models.
In Situ production of methane under the conditions that exist in the Earth's upper mantle."

http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Theory/SustainableOil/

Like I said earlier, I'm not saying that I necessarily believe it all to be true, but it's very intriguing and also somewhat logical.

Good work Nickbat

we - (not me, scientists) know that complex hydrocarbon molecules can be made artificially or synthetically..also I remember somewhere else I read in a big jar filled with hydrogen, carbon and oxygen elements (gas form)  under a specific pressure and temperature if you apply high voltage beams you can obtain simple organic elements very similiar to the beginning of earths history.. :-?

but unfortunately we need more proof to say oil is formed in that way..(scientists say, not me)

however if oil can be produced economically in that way I would be more happy than many people as the fuel is 1.30 here

Thanks, Cem!

I can see you have an open mind to the possibility but, as you say, more definitive scientific proof is needed. 

[OLDTIMER]

..well this theory, which I have mentioned in the past is covered in a new paper here:

http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/oil-is-not-a-fossil-fuel-and-co2-is-an-innocent-victim-of-green-hysteria-by-peter-j-morgan/

I must admit, I've always thought it strange that all those dinosaurs and so on would congregate to die in places like Saudi Arabia. And how come oil can be found 12km beneath the surface? I know it was a long term ago, what flora and fauna was around that deep?

Just a thought.   

If all the fossil fuels we burn today are reputed to come from the dinosaur era, how come we end up with tons of coal and no oil?
Is it because they would not have any use for coal in Saudi!!!!

[Banjax]

..well this theory, which I have mentioned in the past is covered in a new paper here:

http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/oil-is-not-a-fossil-fuel-and-co2-is-an-innocent-victim-of-green-hysteria-by-peter-j-morgan/

I must admit, I've always thought it strange that all those dinosaurs and so on would congregate to die in places like Saudi Arabia. And how come oil can be found 12km beneath the surface? I know it was a long term ago, what flora and fauna was around that deep?

Just a thought.   

If all the fossil fuels we burn today are reputed to come from the dinosaur era, how come we end up with tons of coal and no oil?
Is it because they would not have any use for coal in Saudi!!!!

actually, we produce 1,690,000 barrels of oil per day in Scotland - more than Qatar, Ecuador, Oman, Syria, Yemen and Egypt 

source:U.S. Energy Information Administration




sorry, a bit pedantic i know - but it's late and i couldn't sleep  :-/

[cem_devecioglu]

By the way, I must remind that all oil fields have a gas cap above it (under a salt dome as a natural trap)..

and also I know that most coal fields also have gas in it..

[Dishevelled Den]

..well this theory, which I have mentioned in the past is covered in a new paper here:

http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/oil-is-not-a-fossil-fuel-and-co2-is-an-innocent-victim-of-green-hysteria-by-peter-j-morgan/

I must admit, I've always thought it strange that all those dinosaurs and so on would congregate to die in places like Saudi Arabia. And how come oil can be found 12km beneath the surface? I know it was a long term ago, what flora and fauna was around that deep?

Just a thought.   

If all the fossil fuels we burn today are reputed to come from the dinosaur era, how come we end up with tons of coal and no oil?
Is it because they would not have any use for coal in Saudi!!!!

actually, we produce 1,690,000 barrels of oil per day in Scotland - more than Qatar, Ecuador, Oman, Syria, Yemen and Egypt 

source:U.S. Energy Information Administration




sorry, a bit pedantic i know - but it's late and i couldn't sleep  :-/

say-what?

[Banjax]

..well this theory, which I have mentioned in the past is covered in a new paper here:

http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/oil-is-not-a-fossil-fuel-and-co2-is-an-innocent-victim-of-green-hysteria-by-peter-j-morgan/

I must admit, I've always thought it strange that all those dinosaurs and so on would congregate to die in places like Saudi Arabia. And how come oil can be found 12km beneath the surface? I know it was a long term ago, what flora and fauna was around that deep?

Just a thought.   

If all the fossil fuels we burn today are reputed to come from the dinosaur era, how come we end up with tons of coal and no oil?
Is it because they would not have any use for coal in Saudi!!!!

actually, we produce 1,690,000 barrels of oil per day in Scotland - more than Qatar, Ecuador, Oman, Syria, Yemen and Egypt 

source:U.S. Energy Information Administration




sorry, a bit pedantic i know - but it's late and i couldn't sleep  :-/

say-what?

say what - what? 

[Dishevelled Den]

..well this theory, which I have mentioned in the past is covered in a new paper here:

http://climateresearchnews.com/2009/09/oil-is-not-a-fossil-fuel-and-co2-is-an-innocent-victim-of-green-hysteria-by-peter-j-morgan/

I must admit, I've always thought it strange that all those dinosaurs and so on would congregate to die in places like Saudi Arabia. And how come oil can be found 12km beneath the surface? I know it was a long term ago, what flora and fauna was around that deep?

Just a thought.   

If all the fossil fuels we burn today are reputed to come from the dinosaur era, how come we end up with tons of coal and no oil?
Is it because they would not have any use for coal in Saudi!!!!

actually, we produce 1,690,000 barrels of oil per day in Scotland - more than Qatar, Ecuador, Oman, Syria, Yemen and Egypt 

source:U.S. Energy Information Administration




sorry, a bit pedantic i know - but it's late and i couldn't sleep  :-/

say-what?

say what - what? 

....splendid