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[Nickbat]

Bannjaax and Optimist need not read further. 

"The ice melt across during the Antarctic summer (October-January) of 2008-2009 was the lowest ever recorded in the satellite history."

What? Antarctica NOT melting fast? Where’s the mainstream media to trumpet this happy news?

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/10/06/antarctic-ice-melt-at-lowest-levels-in-satellite-era/


"Thai and Bangladeshi farmers, a Nepalese mountain climber, a Filipino fisherman and an Indonesian women's advocate testified against developed countries in a trial yesterday that found the wealthiest nations responsible for the damages caused by global warming."

[What damages? Name one! - Nickbat]
 
"A panel of judges at the Asian People's Climate Court in Bangkok, the site of current climate talks, determined that major greenhouse gas emitters must help poor countries cope with climate change, while recognizing the human rights and gender aspects of climate change. China, India and other nations have insisted the U.S. and other Western countries should shoulder much of the responsibility for carbon emissions and even pay developing nations to help clean up, ahead of climate talks in December."

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/rich-nations-put-on-trial-for-climate-change-found-guilty.php


Finally, remember that UN Report that used a drawing lifted fromWikipedia? Well, that’s been removed, but on closer inspection , the report also has a few more howlers, like using a picture of the Antarctic to show the Arctic, by attributing a graph to someone who died 4 years ago, and by using a picture of Hawaiian flooding attributed to someone who doesn’t exist and failing to point out that the land where the photo was taken is actually subsiding due to old landfills, not being affected by rising sea levels.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/07/more-gooferey-un-climate-report-confuses-arctic-and-antarctic/

And there was me thinking the UN was a professional organization.

No, I have never thought that. Just teasing!  

[Dishevelled Den]

Bannjaax and Optimist need not read further. 


And there was me thinking the UN was a professional organization.

No, I have never thought that. Just teasing!  

I must disagree with you Nick I find the UN to be very professional in its machinations.............















................. that is of course using the word in the negaitve rather than positive sense

[Banjax]

sorry - listening to David Cameron at the mo - but as i said - theres no need to worry about this "climate change" of which you speak 

[Selseybill]

Bannjaax and Optimist need not read further. 


And there was me thinking the UN was a professional organization.

No, I have never thought that. Just teasing!  

I must disagree with you Nick I find the UN to be very professional in its machinations.............

IIRC the UN was first known as the united league of nations,set up to deal with the Spanish civil war.The main body of the united league members were masons and funded by the masons.I feel a Darren Brown coming on















................. that is of course using the word in the negaitve rather than positive sense

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Bannjaax and Optimist need not read further. 

"The ice melt across during the Antarctic summer (October-January) of 2008-2009 was the lowest ever recorded in the satellite history."

What? Antarctica NOT melting fast? Where’s the mainstream media to trumpet this happy news?

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2009/10/06/antarctic-ice-melt-at-lowest-levels-in-satellite-era/


"Thai and Bangladeshi farmers, a Nepalese mountain climber, a Filipino fisherman and an Indonesian women's advocate testified against developed countries in a trial yesterday that found the wealthiest nations responsible for the damages caused by global warming."

[What damages? Name one! - Nickbat]
 
"A panel of judges at the Asian People's Climate Court in Bangkok, the site of current climate talks, determined that major greenhouse gas emitters must help poor countries cope with climate change, while recognizing the human rights and gender aspects of climate change. China, India and other nations have insisted the U.S. and other Western countries should shoulder much of the responsibility for carbon emissions and even pay developing nations to help clean up, ahead of climate talks in December."

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/rich-nations-put-on-trial-for-climate-change-found-guilty.php


Finally, remember that UN Report that used a drawing lifted fromWikipedia? Well, that’s been removed, but on closer inspection , the report also has a few more howlers, like using a picture of the Antarctic to show the Arctic, by attributing a graph to someone who died 4 years ago, and by using a picture of Hawaiian flooding attributed to someone who doesn’t exist and failing to point out that the land where the photo was taken is actually subsiding due to old landfills, not being affected by rising sea levels.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/07/more-gooferey-un-climate-report-confuses-arctic-and-antarctic/

And there was me thinking the UN was a professional organization.

No, I have never thought that. Just teasing!  

Interesting piece Nick........Keep it coming ....and you may well convert me.
By Christmas .......we may well agree on everything.....from Politics ......to the public school system.

[Nickbat]

New research by the National Space Institute in the Technical University of Denmark (DTU) validated 13 years of discoveries that point to a key role for cosmic rays in climate change.


"..."A loss of clouds of 4 or 5 per cent may not sound very much, but it briefly increases the sunlight reaching the oceans by about 2 watt per square meter, and that's equivalent to all the global warming during the 20th Century."

The Forbush decreases are too short-lived to have a lasting effect on the climate, but they dramatize the mechanism that works more patiently during the 11-year solar cycle.

When the Sun becomes more active, the decline in low-altitude cosmic radiation is greater than that seen in most Forbush events and the loss of low cloud cover persists for long enough to warm the world.

That explains, according to the DTU team, the alternations of warming and cooling seen in the lower atmosphere and in the oceans during solar cycles."

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8807151416


Should someone tell Cameron? 

[Nickbat]

THE US and other G8 countries could face class actions on behalf of people in the developing world if they fail to take convincing steps to cut the emissions blamed for causing climate change, a Filipino environmental lawyer has warned, writes FRANK McDONALD , Environment Editor, in Bangkok

Antonio Oposa was speaking yesterday after a self-styled Asian Peoples’ Climate Court in Bangkok predictably found the G8 guilty of “planetary malpractice” in violation of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/1008/1224256166892.html

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[Dishevelled Den]

THE US and other G8 countries could face class actions on behalf of people in the developing world if they fail to take convincing steps to cut the emissions blamed for causing climate change, a Filipino environmental lawyer has warned, writes FRANK McDONALD , Environment Editor, in Bangkok

Antonio Oposa was speaking yesterday after a self-styled Asian Peoples’ Climate Court in Bangkok predictably found the G8 guilty of “planetary malpractice” in violation of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/1008/1224256166892.html

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I think that sentiment bears reiterating

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[Dishevelled Den]

Here's another piece worthy of examination;


http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103&sid=agR8Crl3AeiU


Two years of climate talks have stalled as developed nations disagree over 2020 emission limits. Developing nations said they are waiting for richer countries, which have put most of the gases into the atmosphere over the past century, to cut their output first.


                                    .........................



A “very successful effort” has been made in the past two weeks to trim a nearly 200-page negotiating text in half, he said. Even so, a successful outcome in Copenhagen depends on the ability of industrialized countries to set “ambitious” targets on both cutting emissions by 2020 and providing financial support to developing nations, he said.

“If what is being offered in Copenhagen is not strong enough, then we need to recognize that the process has to reconvene and consider more ambitious goals on a longer timeframe,” de Boer said.


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Nations across the globe are at odds over the level of emissions cuts developed countries must take, potentially binding commitments that the developing world could undertake, and the level of aid from wealthier to poorer nations to help them adapt to global warming and develop clean-energy sources.


(excerpts from that article)

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Bannjaax and Optimist need not read further. 


And there was me thinking the UN was a professional organization.

No, I have never thought that. Just teasing!  

I must disagree with you Nick I find the UN to be very professional in its machinations.............

IIRC the UN was first known as the united league of nations,set up to deal with the Spanish civil war.The main body of the united league members were masons and funded by the masons.I feel a Darren Brown coming on















................. that is of course using the word in the negaitve rather than positive sense

The League of Nations was created in 1919 following the Versailles Treaty, and with the strong backing of Woodrow Wilson, President of the United States.  It was the first true international government, but unfortunely failed in many respects, including not stopping the Spanish Civil War and not stopping the abuses of the Versailles Treaty by Germany in the period 1934 to 1939.

From 1st January 1946 the United Nations has tried to act as an international government, with first a Security Council acting as it's power house, then a General Assembly asuming the greater power.  However the conflict between the USA and USSR as was, now Russia, and 'difficulties' involving Communist China has inhibited the UN's original Charter aims of becoming that previously mentioned "international government".

[Nickbat]

Bannjaax and Optimist need not read further. 


And there was me thinking the UN was a professional organization.

No, I have never thought that. Just teasing!  

I must disagree with you Nick I find the UN to be very professional in its machinations.............

IIRC the UN was first known as the united league of nations,set up to deal with the Spanish civil war.The main body of the united league members were masons and funded by the masons.I feel a Darren Brown coming on















................. that is of course using the word in the negaitve rather than positive sense

The League of Nations was created in 1919 following the Versailles Treaty, and with the strong backing of Woodrow Wilson, President of the United States.  It was the first true international government, but unfortunely failed in many respects, including not stopping the Spanish Civil War and not stopping the abuses of the Versailles Treaty by Germany in the period 1934 to 1939.

From 1st January 1946 the United Nations has tried to act as an international government, with first a Security Council acting as it's power house, then a General Assembly asuming the greater power.  However the conflict between the USA and USSR as was, now Russia, and 'difficulties' involving Communist China has inhibited the UN's original Charter aims of becoming that previously mentioned "international government".

But we don't want one Lizzie! 

[albitz]

Especially not an unelected one which is even more corrupt than what we have at home.