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[TheBoy]

I shall ask

[Kevin Wood]

Since others have seen my dogey bodge job student wiring skills  I was wondering if your brother could put some lights up for me?

You don 't have some unfused flex and a Senator battery handy then? 

Kevin

[TheBoy]

Since others have seen my dogey bodge job student wiring skills  I was wondering if your brother could put some lights up for me?

You don 't have some unfused flex and a Senator battery handy then? 

Kevin

You forgot the gaffer tape

[tunnie]

Since others have seen my dogey bodge job student wiring skills  I was wondering if your brother could put some lights up for me?

You don 't have some unfused flex and a Senator battery handy then? 

Kevin

You forgot the gaffer tape

Gaffer tape is a fine insulating tape 

Many don't know they also have built in fuses 

[Mr Skrunts]

Since others have seen my dogey bodge job student wiring skills  I was wondering if your brother could put some lights up for me?

You don 't have some unfused flex and a Senator battery handy then? 

Kevin

You forgot the gaffer tape

Gaffer tape is a fine insulating tape 

Many don't know they also have built in fuses 

You seem to have a past regards wiring, that many of us havent heard about.

Are there any pics or a link to help us understand.   

[Kevin Wood]

I'm sure there is a pic somewhere. That particular installation just had to be preserved:

1) Because it was unique.
2) Because it wasn't likely to be around that long before self-destructing.

 

Kevin

[KillerWatt]

Sadly (or thankfuly), the regs are typical, you can drive a bus through them.

About the only parts truely screwed down relate to changing consumer units plus work in bathrooms and kitchens.

There are enough loop holes in the rest of the regs to allow you to do pretty much anything

Preety much the same as likes of corgi/gassafe/whatever, seem to be purely in place to help the trade.


Hope they don't put a ban on home mechanics, diy, cutting the lawn....  ...not that I'd put it past them

If only the regs were put in place to help us (trades).


For us, every time a new bit of legislation arrives, we invariably have to take yet another course....which of course involves us spending £100's to prove we can do the job without killing anyone.

Mark's opinion that you can drive a bus through the current electrical regs is slightly optimistic IMO. Homeowners are still allowed to change "like for like", and a couple of other silly bits & pieces, but that's about their lot (unless they can prove competence).

To be honest, I'd like to see our regs made as tight as the Gas Safe boys...at least that way people wouldn't be able to walk in to B&Q and buy the parts necessary to burn their houses down (hopefully that will be in place by next year anyway).

[Chris_H]

Sadly (or thankfuly), the regs are typical, you can drive a bus through them.

About the only parts truely screwed down relate to changing consumer units plus work in bathrooms and kitchens.

There are enough loop holes in the rest of the regs to allow you to do pretty much anything

Preety much the same as likes of corgi/gassafe/whatever, seem to be purely in place to help the trade.


Hope they don't put a ban on home mechanics, diy, cutting the lawn....  ...not that I'd put it past them

If only the regs were put in place to help us (trades).


For us, every time a new bit of legislation arrives, we invariably have to take yet another course....which of course involves us spending £100's to prove we can do the job without killing anyone.

Mark's opinion that you can drive a bus through the current electrical regs is slightly optimistic IMO. Homeowners are still allowed to change "like for like", and a couple of other silly bits & pieces, but that's about their lot (unless they can prove competence).

To be honest, I'd like to see our regs made as tight as the Gas Safe boys...at least that way people wouldn't be able to walk in to B&Q and buy the parts necessary to burn their houses down (hopefully that will be in place by next year anyway).

Like methylated spirits, gas blowtorches, just about any halogen light-bulb, infused barbecue coals... ? 

As far as I can see, the real risk (of DIYers) is when the property gets sold-on to an un-suspecting buyer.  But then, in future we are likely to have to get a certificate before we can sell anyway.

[mantahatch]

Sadly (or thankfuly), the regs are typical, you can drive a bus through them.

About the only parts truely screwed down relate to changing consumer units plus work in bathrooms and kitchens.

There are enough loop holes in the rest of the regs to allow you to do pretty much anything

Preety much the same as likes of corgi/gassafe/whatever, seem to be purely in place to help the trade.


Hope they don't put a ban on home mechanics, diy, cutting the lawn....  ...not that I'd put it past them

If only the regs were put in place to help us (trades).


For us, every time a new bit of legislation arrives, we invariably have to take yet another course....which of course involves us spending £100's to prove we can do the job without killing anyone.

Mark's opinion that you can drive a bus through the current electrical regs is slightly optimistic IMO. Homeowners are still allowed to change "like for like", and a couple of other silly bits & pieces, but that's about their lot (unless they can prove competence).
To be honest, I'd like to see our regs made as tight as the Gas Safe boys...at least that way people wouldn't be able to walk in to B&Q and buy the parts necessary to burn their houses down (hopefully that will be in place by next year anyway).

I think that is the problem KW, I regularly work on 3 phase systems at work, I have no piece of paper saying I can do it, but have done at least 10 years on it. But the regs tell me I cannot do it at home. Am I considered competent or not ?
And to be honest I did some work a few weeks back for a friend, and he got an electrician in as it had to be inspected. It was certificated. I have never seen such a bodge job in my life, I have the chaps name and no I would never ever use him.
Some of the cable where just pushed into gaps in the plaster board and taped over, others ran along a ceiling 2 inches form the wall at a depth of about 2mm, just where anyone putting coving up might drive a nail/screw in to support the coving while the adhesive sets.
 

Still I suppose people like him keep the good sparks in work 

[Kevin Wood]

To be honest, I'd like to see our regs made as tight as the Gas Safe boys...at least that way people wouldn't be able to walk in to B&Q and buy the parts necessary to burn their houses down (hopefully that will be in place by next year anyway).

Problem is, that won't stop the worst offenders IMHO. They will just carry on with whatever they can get their hands on.

My mother-in-law's house had spurs wired with lighting flex buried a few mm under the plaster. At least there's a chance if someone who's determined to dabble is able to buy the proper supplies.

Kevin