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[Andy B]

No I'm being serious Lads.....I had to get the next set up came in a fancy box too .... Shit I've been had havn't I?

as others have said, bigger is better

thats what her said last night.

It's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it!!

you're not being rude are you?  :-/       

[Marks DTM Calib]

The key thing when jump starting anything is to rev the engine to say 2000rpm on the working vehicle for a few mins and then start the car with the flat battery.

Follow that approach and you could jump start a V8 diesel from a smart car. 

So Mark ..... what's your opinion of where the jump leads should be connected to? I always use the battery terminals, however some say that you should use a substantial earth (I know I know  ) connection on the engine/chassis .... voltage spikes???  :-/

It should be pos to pos on the battery terminals and then neg to th running car battery terminal and new to a substantial 0V on the engine such as a lifting bracket.

reasons are many and include.

1) Any spark will be created when the final connection is made and this will be away from the battery......this is a good thing as batteries (even sealed ones) can vent Hydrogen!

2) It gives some compensation for the resistance of the leads (as you lose the resistance of the battery to engine wire)

3) It reduces any possible high in-rush current from the running vehicle to the flat battery as you now have the jump lead resistance plus the battery 0V lead to.

It may sound far fetched but, with the amps we are talking here, the resistance of the leads are NOT negligible 

The reason behind reving the engine for a few mins is so the running cars alternator (you cant overload them as they will self regulate) actualy dumps some charge into the dead cars battery before attempting a charge.

[Andy B]

The key thing when jump starting anything is to rev the engine to say 2000rpm on the working vehicle for a few mins and then start the car with the flat battery.

Follow that approach and you could jump start a V8 diesel from a smart car. 

So Mark ..... what's your opinion of where the jump leads should be connected to? I always use the battery terminals, however some say that you should use a substantial earth (I know I know  ) connection on the engine/chassis .... voltage spikes???  :-/

It should be pos to pos on the battery terminals and then neg to th running car battery terminal and new to a substantial 0V on the engine such as a lifting bracket.

reasons are many and include.

1) Any spark will be created when the final connection is made and this will be away from the battery......this is a good thing as batteries (even sealed ones) can vent Hydrogen!

2) It gives some compensation for the resistance of the leads (as you lose the resistance of the battery to engine wire)

3) It reduces any possible high in-rush current from the running vehicle to the flat battery as you now have the jump lead resistance plus the battery 0V lead to.

It may sound far fetched but, with the amps we are talking here, the resistance of the leads are NOT negligible 

The reason behind reving the engine for a few mins is so the running cars alternator (you cant overload them as they will self regulate) actualy dumps some charge into the dead cars battery before attempting a charge.

I usually start the 'rescuing' car's battery after they've been connected battery to battery .... but I'll bear your advice next time I need to jump the Omega!       

[LJay]

No I'm being serious Lads.....I had to get the next set up came in a fancy box too .... Shit I've been had havn't I?

as others have said, bigger is better

thats what her said last night.

It's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it!!

you're not being rude are you?  :-/       

Moi?? Perish the thought!!!

[Andy B]

No I'm being serious Lads.....I had to get the next set up came in a fancy box too .... Shit I've been had havn't I?

as others have said, bigger is better

thats what her said last night.

It's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it!!

you're not being rude are you?  :-/       

Moi?? Perish the thought!!!

Didn't think so!       

[LJay]

No I'm being serious Lads.....I had to get the next set up came in a fancy box too .... Shit I've been had havn't I?

as others have said, bigger is better

thats what her said last night.

It's not the size that matters, it's what you do with it!!

you're not being rude are you?  :-/       

Moi?? Perish the thought!!!

Didn't think so!       

Don't know the meaning of the word!!!

[Richie London]

No I'm being serious Lads.....I had to get the next set up came in a fancy box too .... Shit I've been had havn't I?

 

You weren't to know mate.

Now... I need some sky hooks, and could you find me a left handed hammer too please

Sorry... Shouldn't extract the urine

At the end of the day, you've bought some bigger, heavy duty ones now

we sent a young lad over to the first aid room for his glass injection at a double glazing company years.  ago.   

[unlucky mark mv6]

No I'm being serious Lads.....I had to get the next set up came in a fancy box too .... Shit I've been had havn't I?

 

You weren't to know mate.

Now... I need some sky hooks, and could you find me a left handed hammer too please

Sorry... Shouldn't extract the urine

At the end of the day, you've bought some bigger, heavy duty ones now

we sent a young lad over to the first aid room for his glass injection at a double glazing company years.  ago.   

I was a victim of that when i was 14 on my work experience,as i was sent for a long wait,and a box of sparks for the grinder,but i was a bit to clever for the second one,caught me on the first one though.

[Vamps]

No I'm being serious Lads.....I had to get the next set up came in a fancy box too .... Shit I've been had havn't I?

 

You weren't to know mate.

Now... I need some sky hooks, and could you find me a left handed hammer too please

Sorry... Shouldn't extract the urine

At the end of the day, you've bought some bigger, heavy duty ones now

we sent a young lad over to the first aid room for his glass injection at a double glazing company years.  ago.   

And don't forget the tartan paint.....

[Richie London]

No I'm being serious Lads.....I had to get the next set up came in a fancy box too .... Shit I've been had havn't I?

 

You weren't to know mate.

Now... I need some sky hooks, and could you find me a left handed hammer too please

Sorry... Shouldn't extract the urine

At the end of the day, you've bought some bigger, heavy duty ones now

we sent a young lad over to the first aid room for his glass injection at a double glazing company years.  ago.   

And don't forget the tartan paint.....

and the bucket of steam to strip the wallpaper 

[unlucky mark mv6]

No I'm being serious Lads.....I had to get the next set up came in a fancy box too .... Shit I've been had havn't I?

 

You weren't to know mate.

Now... I need some sky hooks, and could you find me a left handed hammer too please

Sorry... Shouldn't extract the urine

At the end of the day, you've bought some bigger, heavy duty ones now

we sent a young lad over to the first aid room for his glass injection at a double glazing company years.  ago.   

And don't forget the tartan paint.....

and the bucket of steam to strip the wallpaper 

[Andy B]

Once upon a time on HMS Fearless, a lad was given the run around for the keys to the snooker room!!!
It took days to realise he'd been conned!!         

[jereboam]

The key thing when jump starting anything is to rev the engine to say 2000rpm on the working vehicle for a few mins and then start the car with the flat battery.

Follow that approach and you could jump start a V8 diesel from a smart car. 

So Mark ..... what's your opinion of where the jump leads should be connected to? I always use the battery terminals, however some say that you should use a substantial earth (I know I know  ) connection on the engine/chassis .... voltage spikes???  :-/

It should be pos to pos on the battery terminals and then neg to th running car battery terminal and new to a substantial 0V on the engine such as a lifting bracket.

Just out of interest, where do you suggest the negative lead is connected to when jump starting a V6.  There's not a lot of room and not a lot of bare metal visible to the untrained eye.  It certainly baffled the last AA man who tried it on my car.  Or are the booster packs intended to be connected to the battery terminals?

[Marks DTM Calib]

The key thing when jump starting anything is to rev the engine to say 2000rpm on the working vehicle for a few mins and then start the car with the flat battery.

Follow that approach and you could jump start a V8 diesel from a smart car. 

So Mark ..... what's your opinion of where the jump leads should be connected to? I always use the battery terminals, however some say that you should use a substantial earth (I know I know  ) connection on the engine/chassis .... voltage spikes???  :-/

It should be pos to pos on the battery terminals and then neg to th running car battery terminal and new to a substantial 0V on the engine such as a lifting bracket.

Just out of interest, where do you suggest the negative lead is connected to when jump starting a V6.  There's not a lot of room and not a lot of bare metal visible to the untrained eye.  It certainly baffled the last AA man who tried it on my car.  Or are the booster packs intended to be connected to the battery terminals?

Engine lift eye by th EGR (2.5/3.0)