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[steve_daly]

Of course, but is a little controversy better than someones death?

[Vamps]

The video is dated September 09..... :-/

[Elite Pete]

The moment he made off after being stopped the first time, he upped the game and becomes a danger to others and potentially anything could happen.

I do see both sides to the discussion but I would still rather see the police deal with offenders quickly and sharply than stepping back for fear of public opinions.

Would you be saying the same thing if it was your father?

Now i'm not a copper (although my daughter is) and I wouldn't want to be one  but if I was following the bloke in the Range Rover knowing how old he was from pulling him earlier I would of done a check with the PNC got his address and waited there for him there, simples

Why do people always do that lol.

Would a PNC check have informed the following officer if the old chap had a gun and was suicidal? Had a kidnapped child in the car?

Perhaps a better outcome would have been that they let him continue driving in a distressed state and plough into a woman and child crossing the road and then pick him up at home. Would your liberal attitude still be apparent if it was your wife and child?

I am sure then the uproar would be "Well why the hell didn't they stop him sooner"

If he'd had a gun then surely he would have used it the first time he was pulled and likewise a kidnapped child would have been spotted as well and looking at the video I think he reached the heady hights of 40 mph at one point

[holtender]

silly old duffer, but as mentioned, anyone could have been in that car. Smashing windows is standard shock & awe tactics, which are proven to work.

and jumping up and gown on the bonnet. 

I know a man who can repair it.

[tidla]

silly old duffer, but as mentioned, anyone could have been in that car. Smashing windows is standard shock & awe tactics, which are proven to work.

and jumping up and down on the bonnet. 

I know a man who can repair it.

part time eco activist?

[Dishevelled Den]

The moment he made off after being stopped the first time, he upped the game and becomes a danger to others and potentially anything could happen.

I do see both sides to the discussion but I would still rather see the police deal with offenders quickly and sharply than stepping back for fear of public opinions.

Would you be saying the same thing if it was your father?

Now i'm not a copper (although my daughter is) and I wouldn't want to be one  but if I was following the bloke in the Range Rover knowing how old he was from pulling him earlier I would of done a check with the PNC got his address and waited there for him there, simples

Why do people always do that lol.

Would a PNC check have informed the following officer if the old chap had a gun and was suicidal? Had a kidnapped child in the car?

Perhaps a better outcome would have been that they let him continue driving in a distressed state and plough into a woman and child crossing the road and then pick him up at home. Would your liberal attitude still be apparent if it was your wife and child?

I am sure then the uproar would be "Well why the hell didn't they stop him sooner"

Why do people always do that lol.

  Nice try Rufus but the following is just as speculative and emotive - and - just as redundant.

Perhaps a better outcome would have been that they let him continue driving in a distressed state and plough into a woman and child crossing the road and then pick him up at home. Would your liberal attitude still be apparent if it was your wife and child?

I am sure then the uproar would be "Well why the hell didn't they stop him sooner"

Quite so, but by lawful, proportionate means Rufus.  I have been in many situations where I had the option to escalate things beyond a certain point, in most of them I was glad that I took the considered less direct approach.

Gung-ho policing leads to all manner of difficulties, I have been there and can say with certainty that this approach fails to achieve the objective more often than not.

[Amego52]

It seems to me that the officer who battered the drivers window may well be suffering from small man syndrome! His actions seemed to set the pace.
Quite right that they were suspended, but i suspect they are back on duty by now, with the blame laid soley at the pensioners door.

[Dishevelled Den]

Of course, but is a little controversy better than someones death?

That's both speculative and naive Rufus, I'm not permitted to give examples of why but if you ever wore a uniform on the streets in the capacity of a police officer you might better understand how much responsibility that fact carries.