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Martin_1962

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PC rebuild help
« on: 05 December 2010, 21:58:15 »

I am rebuilding a pile of parts into a PC and using the licence which came with a large part of them (for TB).

Anyway after installing the drivers for the graphics card the PC gets into a reboot loop.

300w power supply, P4, Leadtek A7600GS TDH AGP graphics card.

Monitor goes mad - triangles or lots of vertical lines, then shuts down on first attempt, future attempts reboot before login and the screen goes blank.

Any ideas where to look?

Fresh SP3 install.

Web searching doesn't seem to help too much.
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #1 on: 05 December 2010, 22:04:45 »

sounds like the chip on the graphics card is fried
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #2 on: 05 December 2010, 22:04:55 »

will it run in safe mode? iif so uninstall the graphics drivers and reboot, if windows loads normally its a duff card, which is more than likely if you managed to install the OS in the first place.

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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #3 on: 05 December 2010, 22:07:44 »

It runs in VGA mode and with no NVidia drivers installed
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #4 on: 05 December 2010, 22:10:20 »

The PC doesn't recognise the card as a NVidia either
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #5 on: 05 December 2010, 22:14:17 »

yeah card is fubar'd, had the same problem with a 9800gtx, wasnt recognised by windows as nvidia, and forcing an install of driver caused the system to hang.

I fixed the card tho, removed heatsink, and used a heatgun on the chip on both sides to reflow the solder, then refitted heatsink with new paste, has been working flawlessly for 3 years now

in your case just swap the card, agp stuff is nice and cheap so wont be a hassle
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #6 on: 05 December 2010, 22:27:29 »

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yeah card is fubar'd, had the same problem with a 9800gtx, wasnt recognised by windows as nvidia, and forcing an install of driver caused the system to hang.

I fixed the card tho, removed heatsink, and used a heatgun on the chip on both sides to reflow the solder, then refitted heatsink with new paste, has been working flawlessly for 3 years now

in your case just swap the card, agp stuff is nice and cheap so wont be a hassle


I have a plastic welder and also some heatsink paste from a YLOD repair
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #7 on: 05 December 2010, 22:31:39 »

go for it, no loss either way  ;D

same method as the ylod, 15 secs in circular motion each side.

altho ylod fix on a ps3 is only delaying the inevitable l :-[
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #8 on: 05 December 2010, 23:40:26 »

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go for it, no loss either way  ;D

same method as the ylod, 15 secs in circular motion each side.

altho ylod fix on a ps3 is only delaying the inevitable l :-[


Got most of the data across to a slim - lost 2 PSN accounts as we couldn't remember password or pretended DOB
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #9 on: 06 December 2010, 09:03:43 »

As others have said - a video card that will work in VGA, but fails once you get the driver on it is invariably a knackered video card.

If its been inappropriately handled, you can replace the memory chips, as in my experience, these are the first to suffer ESD.

If its heatsink has come loose, or has suffered inappropriate cooling (common in home built machines), then it is more likely to be damage within the GPU, of the GPU to PCB connection - both well out of reach of people without the necessary equipment.


But given the age of the card, it ain't worth the hassle ;)
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #10 on: 06 December 2010, 09:07:17 »

Incidentally, the Stop code should be recorded in the event log, though I suspect it will simply point to the Nvidia driver crashing due to something unexpected (as far as driver is concerned) happening which the driver is running active code.

Video drivers on NT based systems (though not pre-NT4.0) run in kernel mode for performance, thus if they crash, a Stop (BSOD) is generated
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #11 on: 07 December 2010, 20:01:27 »

Plastic welder wins again - so far it has saved.

1 caravan front
All of my game save data off a YLOD PS3
1 graphics card
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Re: PC rebuild help
« Reply #12 on: 07 December 2010, 20:02:15 »

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Plastic welder wins again - so far it has saved.

1 caravan front
All of my game save data off a YLOD PS3
1 graphics card

told ya  :y
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