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[Lizzie_Zoom]

I personally dont blame them, some of the comments made by those in disagreement with their views were very personal and unnecessary.  I have been on the receiving end of some myself.  As a result I often think twice about joining some debates, the number of times I write a response and delete it without posting does not bear mentionning.

Civilised debate is one thing some people, not everyone, on here are incapable of.  That said I like it on here because there are many on here who I enjoy the e-company of 

Absolutely. ....... imo this comes from frustration of not being able to "win" the debate when someone sooooooo wants to "win" it.

and he sooooo wanted to win it

anyway this is a Zulu thread :o

Absolutely BJ, but it seems Nick is linked to why Zulu is not still on board, which is a great shame!!

[Banjax]

fair point Liz 

no offence to NB intended 

[Dishevelled Den]

Whilst it may be frustrating for some - I haven’t been far.

I wasn’t planning to contribute until I’d sorted my own thoughts, which I haven’t fully done up to the moment, but I think this post-mortem isn’t necessarily in the interests of the forum – which is after all bigger than any one it’s constituent parts. (Although this fact may well be a surprise for certain members)

Contrary to what some may believe I didn’t have a ‘huff’ as a result of the treatment Nick received last week.  I didn’t like it though; I would consider him a valuable member whose contributions have lifted the standard of debate here immeasurably.

I decided to re-examine my own position here as it appeared to me, at least, on aggregating the comments up to that point last week (and analysing the replies of others to some of my own contributions) that I was probably the problem, rather than any those members who apparently found my posting to be arrogant, high-handed, misconceived (in the light that this is, after all, a car forum) or generally a pain in the arse.

I have said many times before I’m not here to cause rancour and I have no agenda being here other than for the enjoyment I receive from the contributions of all the membership.

Bearing that in mind, when it came to my attention that some of the threads I was involved with were causing problems with those members who could not ignore them then the solution was quite obvious to me – stop posting, as I certainly don’t wish to cause stress to others as a result of my own behaviour.

It is up to me to address my interaction with the forum – not the obverse and that’s the main reason I quit posting.  I was always the solution to the problem not the cause of it.

I will be happy to deal with those of you who consider me to be a problem by way of PM – as I can’t do so face to face because I’m stuck in an inhospitable part of the nation at the moment but more so because I, like some others, do tend to call the spade a spade when it’s necessary and an exchange on these terms on an open board would not be in the interests of the forum in general.

The forum experienced some difficulties last week - not for the first or last time I would imagine but it will continue to be the premier site for those who have found something deeper and more meaningful than the mere fact that a certain type of car is the reason why most of us are on here in the first place.

[Mysteryman]

Welcome back Den.

Cold tonight innit? D'yer think that'll be global coolin or wha?

[Del Boy]

I still love you Zulu

Saying that I purposely haven't read the thread about the forum changing, purely for the fact that I knew there would be a disagreement in there somewhere. I may go and read it now though for a bit of gossip

[HolyCount]

Nicely said, Zee

[Darth Loo-knee]

Whilst it may be frustrating for some - I haven’t been far.

I wasn’t planning to contribute until I’d sorted my own thoughts, which I haven’t fully done up to the moment, but I think this post-mortem isn’t necessarily in the interests of the forum – which is after all bigger than any one it’s constituent parts. (Although this fact may well be a surprise for certain members)

Contrary to what some may believe I didn’t have a ‘huff’ as a result of the treatment Nick received last week.  I didn’t like it though; I would consider him a valuable member whose contributions have lifted the standard of debate here immeasurably.

I decided to re-examine my own position here as it appeared to me, at least, on aggregating the comments up to that point last week (and analysing the replies of others to some of my own contributions) that I was probably the problem, rather than any those members who apparently found my posting to be arrogant, high-handed, misconceived (in the light that this is, after all, a car forum) or generally a pain in the arse.

I have said many times before I’m not here to cause rancour and I have no agenda being here other than for the enjoyment I receive from the contributions of all the membership.

Bearing that in mind, when it came to my attention that some of the threads I was involved with were causing problems with those members who could not ignore them then the solution was quite obvious to me – stop posting, as I certainly don’t wish to cause stress to others as a result of my own behaviour.

It is up to me to address my interaction with the forum – not the obverse and that’s the main reason I quit posting.  I was always the solution to the problem not the cause of it.

I will be happy to deal with those of you who consider me to be a problem by way of PM – as I can’t do so face to face because I’m stuck in an inhospitable part of the nation at the moment but more so because I, like some others, do tend to call the spade a spade when it’s necessary and an exchange on these terms on an open board would not be in the interests of the forum in general.

The forum experienced some difficulties last week - not for the first or last time I would imagine but it will continue to be the premier site for those who have found something deeper and more meaningful than the mere fact that a certain type of car is the reason why most of us are on here in the first place.

Not sure at what or whom your refering to Sir Zulu but for me you are one of my Icons in this Forum. You are fair, put a brilliant letter together explaining your thoughs to paper/keyboard perfectly, not to far from My Dad

No problems here just Love mate 

[Mysteryman]

Den is one of my favourite people on here. He won't give in for the sake of a quiet life, yet doesn't resort to insults, no matter how frustrated. Now can we put this to bed.

[henryd]

I miss your posts as well Zulu, come back soon

[cem_devecioglu]

Whilst it may be frustrating for some - I haven’t been far.

I wasn’t planning to contribute until I’d sorted my own thoughts, which I haven’t fully done up to the moment, but I think this post-mortem isn’t necessarily in the interests of the forum – which is after all bigger than any one it’s constituent parts. (Although this fact may well be a surprise for certain members)

Contrary to what some may believe I didn’t have a ‘huff’ as a result of the treatment Nick received last week.  I didn’t like it though; I would consider him a valuable member whose contributions have lifted the standard of debate here immeasurably.

I decided to re-examine my own position here as it appeared to me, at least, on aggregating the comments up to that point last week (and analysing the replies of others to some of my own contributions) that I was probably the problem, rather than any those members who apparently found my posting to be arrogant, high-handed, misconceived (in the light that this is, after all, a car forum) or generally a pain in the arse.

I have said many times before I’m not here to cause rancour and I have no agenda being here other than for the enjoyment I receive from the contributions of all the membership.

Bearing that in mind, when it came to my attention that some of the threads I was involved with were causing problems with those members who could not ignore them then the solution was quite obvious to me – stop posting, as I certainly don’t wish to cause stress to others as a result of my own behaviour.

It is up to me to address my interaction with the forum – not the obverse and that’s the main reason I quit posting.  I was always the solution to the problem not the cause of it.

I will be happy to deal with those of you who consider me to be a problem by way of PM – as I can’t do so face to face because I’m stuck in an inhospitable part of the nation at the moment but more so because I, like some others, do tend to call the spade a spade when it’s necessary and an exchange on these terms on an open board would not be in the interests of the forum in general.

The forum experienced some difficulties last week - not for the first or last time I would imagine but it will continue to be the premier site for those who have found something deeper and more meaningful than the mere fact that a certain type of car is the reason why most of us are on here in the first place.

Good to hear from you

[Darth Loo-knee]

It seems that Zulu is back with us which I am pleased about too...

So locking now

Thanks