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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #15 on: 31 March 2011, 15:54:44 »

love the aero car or whatever you want to call it.
crazy. :D
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #16 on: 31 March 2011, 15:55:54 »

I'm glad you said 'most' Lizzie ;D Some of them are .. not attractive (the Scarab and that red & white bus thing..)

And yeah - the car with the prop, can't see that getting Type Approval these days, can you? Pedestrian impact testing would have to be renamed! ;D
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #17 on: 31 March 2011, 15:57:11 »

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I'm glad you said 'most' Lizzie ;D Some of them are .. not attractive (the Scarab and that red & white bus thing..)

And yeah - the car with the prop, can't see that getting Type Approval these days, can you? Pedestrian impact testing would have to be renamed! ;D


............and the car to The Shredder! :D :D :D ;)
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #18 on: 31 March 2011, 18:38:01 »

Lizzie, if Aaron's postings are producing desirable stirrings within you  :o, then check out the coachbuilders Figoni et Falaschi; they're French, operated mainly in the 30's, and  made some outrageous bodies, most notably for Talbot / Talbot-Lago.
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« Reply #19 on: 31 March 2011, 18:42:54 »

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Lizzie, if Aaron's postings are producing desirable stirrings within you  :o, then check out the coachbuilders Figoni et Falaschi; they're French, operated mainly in the 30's, and  made some outrageous bodies, most notably for Talbot / Talbot-Lago.


Thanks Tony! :y :y :y
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #20 on: 31 March 2011, 18:50:46 »

Well Tony I have started the research and very quickly found this ; that company's 1939 contribution to streamlining!! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*




Now look at Duchess of Hamilton again!:



Car mimicking the locomotive?! :D :D :D :-* :-* :-* ;)
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #21 on: 31 March 2011, 18:58:18 »

...............and again:



Not sure if Aaron hasn't shown another view of this, but it is a 1936 Delahaye 135 Competitione Coupe



 :-* :-* :-* :y :y :y :y
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #22 on: 01 April 2011, 14:37:23 »

World War II stopped streamlining on many forms of transport, but of course aeroplanes!!

On the railways it has always remained doubtful that streamling on steam locomotives had any beneficial effect on performance, and thus costs, but it was certainly a great PR exercise for the two main Big Four railway rivals.

However, as the LNER and LMS were dismantling the streamlined casings on their loco's due to the need to save on maintenance costs, and help counteract a sudden shortage of labour, which were heightened by so much panelling in the way of parts requiring servicing, my hero, the Chief Mechanical Technician*** of the Southern Railway was about to launch his version of streamlining!

That great man was Oliver V.Bulleid. :y :y :y

In February 1941 he managed to get approval to use vital war steel for a new revolutionary class of locomotive.  It was the Merchant Navy Class, Pacific locomotive, of which 30 would eventually be built, including an initial batch of 10 in March 1938, which were actually built during 1941/2 at Eastleigh. 

They featured  Bulleid Firth-Brown wheels (No spokes, but holes!), and an infamous chain-driven three row crankshaft operating valve gears for each cylinder, in a 40 gallon oil bath that also enclosed the sets of motion between the frames, that regularly caught fire when becoming too hot!! They also had clasp-type brakes, welded steel firbox with thermic syphons, and a boiler pressure of 280lb psi.  The whole boiler was clad in streamlined casing right down to the frames.


The first out of the shops in February 1941 was Channel Packet No. 21C1, later BR No. 35001:



This is one of her sisters, No 21C4 (later BR 35004) Cunard White Star pulling an Express out of Waterloo:



If you are wondering about Bulleid's unique locomotive numbering system it was simple but clever.

A Pacific class loco has a wheel arrangement of 4-6-2.  So Bullied numbered his loco's of the Pacific type 21C; 2 axles on the front bogie, 1 axle on the pony truck (under the footplate) and C for the three main driving axles (a loco with just two would be classed as "B", or one with 5 would be "E").  Then comes the Southern Railway number of the locomotive, in Channel Packets case, "1" or for Cunard White Star, "4". ;) ;)

These wonderful engines, along with most of his later West Country / Battle of Britain class locomotives, which looked almost the same but were lighter, were rebuilt by BR from 1958, the first being BR. No. 35018 British India Line, which I had the pleasure helping to start restoration on in the late 1970s.

This is 35005 (previous SR 21C5) Canadian Pacific on the Mid-Hants Railway in rebuilt form:



 :y :y :y


***  I keep typing "Technician", but that word "Technician" keeps on appearing!! >:( >:( >:(


What the ............!!!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

EN-GIN-EER!!!!!  Hurrah!!!  That bloody word filter!!! ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #23 on: 01 April 2011, 14:55:50 »

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something about 30's design I really like, my flat was built in 1935, massive rooms and celling, much better than modern builds.

Office builds are the same, where I work we used to have this:







But they demolished it, the day before it was due to be listed. A bank holiday Monday no less!

Now got this 80's pile of poo where I work:





The classic Art Deco period. My two favourite buildings from this period are the Empire State building (around 1930).....and The Chrysler building (around 1929)
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #24 on: 01 April 2011, 15:52:07 »

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I like that - I know I'm digressing from Lizzie's post really..

Art Deco architecture is beautiful in my eyes - I used to love some of the buildings that turned up in Poirot, too (yes, yes, I know).

Of course I'm also extremely partial to a bit of brutalist architecture - somewhat of a departure from Art Deco & Streamlining! This being one of my favourites:

http://deliciousghost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/220a.jpg

(Won't let me embed the image for some reason)
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #25 on: 01 April 2011, 15:55:42 »

thats rather different. :o
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #26 on: 01 April 2011, 22:30:17 »

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I like that - I know I'm digressing from Lizzie's post really..

Art Deco architecture is beautiful in my eyes - I used to love some of the buildings that turned up in Poirot, too (yes, yes, I know).

Of course I'm also extremely partial to a bit of brutalist architecture - somewhat of a departure from Art Deco & Streamlining! This being one of my favourites:

http://deliciousghost.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/220a.jpg

(Won't let me embed the image for some reason)


To me Art Deco buildings often appear streamlined as their lines are rounded, scultured, and flowing.  In fact they reflect that whole period of the 1930swhen everything had to have flowing lines and a graceful appearance. Sculture was the same, soft, flowing, smooth outlines of, typically, nudes! 8-) 8-) ;)
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Re: Streamliner Loco's & Cars
« Reply #27 on: 01 April 2011, 22:48:48 »

Ahh so what we're saying then, is that Art Deco buildings and streamliner cars/locos are, basically, naked women.

I knew there was a reason I liked them ;D
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« Reply #28 on: 02 April 2011, 18:01:55 »

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Ahh so what we're saying then, is that Art Deco buildings and streamliner cars/locos are, basically, naked women.

I knew there was a reason I liked them ;D


The similarities are certainly that they are all curvy, shapely, smooth and expertly designed with art, along with beauty, in mind! :D :D :y :y :y
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