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[supermop]

people shouldn't use phones, even if hands free, because, unlike listening to the radio and music, a conversation on the phone requires more thinking, thus causing distraction from driving, even passengers in cars shouldn't bother the driver too much

dont agree with that. might as well poll car manufacturers to start making isolated drivers cabs!

a good driver is able to multitask, especially when driving comes as a second nature. you notice things like obstacles and road markings/signs without realising. it is possible to become skilled enough at driving that most of the awareness becomes subconcious. thus freeing you up to banter to your passenger or your mate on the handsfree.

[Kevin Wood]

might as well poll car manufacturers to start making isolated drivers cabs!

That's actually not a bad idea, IMO.

Lock the kids, etc. away in a separate compartment. It doesn't matter what they do on the way home, if they aren't distracting the driver they have a better chance of making it home.

Yes, drivers must multitask but, again, drawing from flying experience, you have to be capable of managing and prioritising those tasks, not just accomplishing each one poorly. "Above all, fly the aircraft" is a frequently used expression. It means that it doesn't matter if you're lost, unaware of airspace restrictions around you, talking to people on the radio, etc. if the flying gets demanding, you put away your maps, radios, etc. and concentrate on getting yourself back on the ground in one piece, because that's ultimately your highest priority.

If you're on a deserted motorway, driving probably gives you the opportunity to achieve other tasks safely but when you enter suburbia you need 100% concentration on the road. Problem is, a phone call, especially if it's important, stressful or work-related, is a very difficult thing to shove to the back of your mind when you realise you need to shift some of your concentration back to your driving.

Kevin

[miggy]

Being a victim of someone being under the influence 10 years ago, I have no time for anyone who drinks and drives, OK everyone deserves a second chance but unfortunatly my family member does not have a second chance. The bloke got off lightly with only 4 years behind bars, he should have been there till he rotted, and then some.

There is no excuse for driving whilst being under the influence, no matter what the excuse is, at the end of the day those people are in charge of a lethel weapon, if they commit a crime with it then they should be dealt with in a proper manner, ban for life.

No excuse, it is totally the decision of the person to drive and no one else.
 

  

[Martin_1962]

Drink driving- Zero tolerance. Every one reacts to drink and for that matter drugs differently.

 8-)
DaveL

Not workable - the current limits are OK the people getting p1ssed are not.

One drink does not make me want more, quite often at home I will drink one can 440mm and that is it.

A pint with a meal is nice and refreshing, and it can relax you without wanting to get drunk.

Responsability is what is required.

[Kevin Wood]

Responsability is what is required.

I agree. A lower limit will open up all sorts of problems. A load of "morning after" convictions won't help anyone. It's the regular drink drivers who flout the law because they don't believe they'll get caught who are the issue.

The system needs to detect them rather than law abiding people with a trace of alcohol from the night before, provide some certainty that they WILL get caught and the penalties need to be set to remove them from the roads.

Kevin

[miggy]

Drink driving- Zero tolerance. Every one reacts to drink and for that matter drugs differently.

 8-)
DaveL

Not workable - the current limits are OK the people getting p1ssed are not.

One drink does not make me want more, quite often at home I will drink one can 440mm and that is it.

A pint with a meal is nice and refreshing, and it can relax you without wanting to get drunk.

Responsability is what is required.

Read my post above.

NOT ANY alcoholic drink should pass anyones lips if they intend to drive

[TheBoy]

If its my turn to drive, I won't touch a drop all evening. Even after 1/2 pint of average lager, your reactions are significantly impaired, and I am not comfortable with having slower reactions.  Obviously, I am realistic, and know others may have other views on how their reactions fair after a pint or 2.  I am happy with the law as it is, but feel the penalties should be stronger (short term loss of licence isn't that big a deal now, with home working a possibility for many).

Back to the original post, I believe tiredness is less of an issue. Yes, reactions are slower, but not to the point of 'over the limit' drink. Obviously, if you're that tired that you fall asleep, and you're still driving, then you're a tosser imo.