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Re: Another Computer Problem
« Reply #15 on: 18 August 2011, 15:51:47 »

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Install a copy of Vista OR AT BEST, Windows 7 ideally on to another drive. It will automatically set up a dual boot allowing you to deide which one to log on too.

You should be able to get hold of your "old stuff" via the Documents and Settings folder that remains untouched.

?  Even if the hard drive has only one partitition
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Re: Another Computer Problem
« Reply #16 on: 18 August 2011, 15:57:04 »

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Install a copy of Vista OR AT BEST, Windows 7 ideally on to another drive. It will automatically set up a dual boot allowing you to deide which one to log on too.

You should be able to get hold of your "old stuff" via the Documents and Settings folder that remains untouched.

?  Even if the hard drive has only one partitition

Why go to all that trouble just to recover data??  Boot off a live Linux disk (Ubuntu for example) - you will have tools on there to retrieve data to usb stick or external hard drive  :y
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Re: Another Computer Problem
« Reply #17 on: 18 August 2011, 16:16:22 »

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Install a copy of Vista OR AT BEST, Windows 7 ideally on to another drive. It will automatically set up a dual boot allowing you to deide which one to log on too.

You should be able to get hold of your "old stuff" via the Documents and Settings folder that remains untouched.

?  Even if the hard drive has only one partitition

yep..
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Re: Another Computer Problem
« Reply #18 on: 18 August 2011, 18:28:53 »

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I would definately suspect a driver / software problem over a hardware problem because you say you can boot into safe mode OK.  If the hardware was a fault you would likely get the problem in safe mode aswell.
Believe it or not, many (esp ATI for some reason) video cards run fine in Safe mode but not when at hi-res in normal mode. Various reasons, all based around the GPU causing an abnormality that the driver can't deal with, based on RAM faults, overheat faults, ESD etc.

The test is, as we have suggested, removal of the driver, and putting a newer one on. If it still fails at same point, suspect the hardware (but still not conclusive to write it off), if it fixes, happy days :y
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Re: Another Computer Problem
« Reply #19 on: 18 August 2011, 18:31:22 »

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I would definately suspect a driver / software problem over a hardware problem because you say you can boot into safe mode OK.  If the hardware was a fault you would likely get the problem in safe mode aswell.

Have you recently updated any drivers or installed any new software, around the time the problem started?

Not that I recall.

I think the only out of the ordinary things that day were that I changed the M/B battery because I had to reset the clock every time I booted up and I watched the cambelt change DVD. :)
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Re: Another Computer Problem
« Reply #20 on: 18 August 2011, 18:37:42 »

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Keep off Vista though - despite what TB says, Vista was rushed out as a "replacement" for XP, and was poorly implemented by MS - it's very resource hungry, you will need a pretty hi-spec PC to get any speed out of it.
Its not so bad.  Its biggest issue was being 'different' and needing new drivers. This caused the idiot IT journos to say 'it is crap' (these are the idiots who believe running as a non-Admin is a slur on their manhood, and exactly who UAC was aimed at) and hardware manufacturers to blame it for their laziness and sloppyness.

Yes, boot up time was a bit long winded on crappy hardware (I always said it needed at least a Core2 with 2Gb to run properly - way more than XP, and about the same as Win7), but give it good hardware, it was fine.  My Dell desktop, which I still use, when I first got it, would go from power on to full, usable Windows desktop in 11s with the crappy Dell build :o



The XP v Vista debate was no different to the Windows 2000 Pro v XP debate, when everybody hated XP because it was different to Windows 2000 Pro, and there were many driver incompatibilities.
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Re: Another Computer Problem
« Reply #21 on: 18 August 2011, 22:17:09 »

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Keep off Vista though - despite what TB says, Vista was rushed out as a "replacement" for XP, and was poorly implemented by MS - it's very resource hungry, you will need a pretty hi-spec PC to get any speed out of it.
Its not so bad.  Its biggest issue was being 'different' and needing new drivers. This caused the idiot IT journos to say 'it is crap' (these are the idiots who believe running as a non-Admin is a slur on their manhood, and exactly who UAC was aimed at) and hardware manufacturers to blame it for their laziness and sloppyness.

Yes, boot up time was a bit long winded on crappy hardware (I always said it needed at least a Core2 with 2Gb to run properly - way more than XP, and about the same as Win7), but give it good hardware, it was fine.  My Dell desktop, which I still use, when I first got it, would go from power on to full, usable Windows desktop in 11s with the crappy Dell build :o



The XP v Vista debate was no different to the Windows 2000 Pro v XP debate, when everybody hated XP because it was different to Windows 2000 Pro, and there were many driver incompatibilities.

Why persevere with Vista and all its shortcomings, when Win7 is less resource hungry and has addessed Vista's shortcomings.

As I said earlier Windows7 is what Vista should have been - MS had the time to get it right before release.  :y
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Re: Another Computer Problem
« Reply #22 on: 20 August 2011, 18:37:28 »

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Keep off Vista though - despite what TB says, Vista was rushed out as a "replacement" for XP, and was poorly implemented by MS - it's very resource hungry, you will need a pretty hi-spec PC to get any speed out of it.
Its not so bad.  Its biggest issue was being 'different' and needing new drivers. This caused the idiot IT journos to say 'it is crap' (these are the idiots who believe running as a non-Admin is a slur on their manhood, and exactly who UAC was aimed at) and hardware manufacturers to blame it for their laziness and sloppyness.

Yes, boot up time was a bit long winded on crappy hardware (I always said it needed at least a Core2 with 2Gb to run properly - way more than XP, and about the same as Win7), but give it good hardware, it was fine.  My Dell desktop, which I still use, when I first got it, would go from power on to full, usable Windows desktop in 11s with the crappy Dell build :o



The XP v Vista debate was no different to the Windows 2000 Pro v XP debate, when everybody hated XP because it was different to Windows 2000 Pro, and there were many driver incompatibilities.

Why persevere with Vista and all its shortcomings, when Win7 is less resource hungry and has addessed Vista's shortcomings.

As I said earlier Windows7 is what Vista should have been - MS had the time to get it right before release.  :y
Because Win7 Home Premium is £80 for upgrade and about £120 for full version ;)

Thus if one of my customers has Vista, I just optimise it back up ;)
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