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[djac]

Is there any way of telling what versions of the gearbox and climate software are installed, without tech 2 or similar?

[cem_devecioglu]

Not to what ever you want, they adapt to your driving style over a period of use.

And CEM, they DO adapt.

Its difficult to spot when you drive your own car all the time as the adaption is slow and subtle but, I spot it quite quickly when driving others, you can tell hows its been driven.

If I get in AA's and try to give it some boot (without tripping the kick down) it changes earlier in the revs by 1000rpm or so.

Mr DTM, they may adopt,  but obviously I dont see  as the gear ratios are crap with a crap autobox.. it locks up very late , consumes unnecessary fuel, and resists to accelerate.. if it was 6 speed with short ratios may be I would feel.. or else the box is fubar whatever..

I realise tech2 may not be so easily accessible Cem, but if at all possible, I would recommend the auto gear box update, iirc latest is version 9, improves the changes and shift points, also climate update while your there, sorry to keep on. 

well, I asked (long time ago) the biggest opel service about software upgrade for autobox,  they say "first time we hear about it"   

may be its good idea to ask gearbox specialists :-/

[Entwood]

Not to what ever you want, they adapt to your driving style over a period of use.

And CEM, they DO adapt.

Its difficult to spot when you drive your own car all the time as the adaption is slow and subtle but, I spot it quite quickly when driving others, you can tell hows its been driven.

If I get in AA's and try to give it some boot (without tripping the kick down) it changes earlier in the revs by 1000rpm or so.

Mr DTM, they may adopt,  but obviously I dont see  as the gear ratios are crap with a crap autobox.. it locks up very late , consumes unnecessary fuel, and resists to accelerate.. if it was 6 speed with short ratios may be I would feel.. or else the box is fubar whatever..

I realise tech2 may not be so easily accessible Cem, but if at all possible, I would recommend the auto gear box update, iirc latest is version 9, improves the changes and shift points, also climate update while your there, sorry to keep on. 

well, I asked (long time ago) the biggest opel service about software upgrade for autobox,  they say "first time we hear about it"   

may be its good idea to ask gearbox specialists :-/

Nah Cem .. you just need a holiday in UK .. that coincides with the Newent or Lakes meets ... then you'll be sorted and we can all have a beer or three as well ( probably cheaper than going to a dealer as well !  )

 

 

[cem_devecioglu]

Not to what ever you want, they adapt to your driving style over a period of use.

And CEM, they DO adapt.

Its difficult to spot when you drive your own car all the time as the adaption is slow and subtle but, I spot it quite quickly when driving others, you can tell hows its been driven.

If I get in AA's and try to give it some boot (without tripping the kick down) it changes earlier in the revs by 1000rpm or so.

Mr DTM, they may adopt,  but obviously I dont see  as the gear ratios are crap with a crap autobox.. it locks up very late , consumes unnecessary fuel, and resists to accelerate.. if it was 6 speed with short ratios may be I would feel.. or else the box is fubar whatever..

I realise tech2 may not be so easily accessible Cem, but if at all possible, I would recommend the auto gear box update, iirc latest is version 9, improves the changes and shift points, also climate update while your there, sorry to keep on. 

well, I asked (long time ago) the biggest opel service about software upgrade for autobox,  they say "first time we hear about it"   

may be its good idea to ask gearbox specialists :-/

Nah Cem .. you just need a holiday in UK .. that coincides with the Newent or Lakes meets ... then you'll be sorted and we can all have a beer or three as well ( probably cheaper than going to a dealer as well !  )

 

 

I wish to do so

but first I need to ask the prime minister to increase my microscobic salary

[Kevin Wood]

Remember only later autobox ECUs (post 99 rings a bell?) are upgradeable. But clearly Cem's dealer don't know how to use their Tech 2.

Kevin

[cem_devecioglu]

Remember only later autobox ECUs (post 99 rings a bell?) are upgradeable. But clearly Cem's dealer don't know how to use their Tech 2.

Kevin

nah.. that cancels any possibilities.. :-/

seriously the dealer uses tech 2 for error codes.. nothing more..

[Ian_D]

Not to what ever you want, they adapt to your driving style over a period of use.

And CEM, they DO adapt.

Its difficult to spot when you drive your own car all the time as the adaption is slow and subtle but, I spot it quite quickly when driving others, you can tell hows its been driven.

If I get in AA's and try to give it some boot (without tripping the kick down) it changes earlier in the revs by 1000rpm or so.

So if you give it almost full throttle (right up to the kick down switch, but not enough to operate it), I assume that your Omega would change later than say an Omega driven by Miss Daisy?

What’s the normal RPM which they change gear in this scenario?

I think if I’m giving it as much throttle as I can without pressing the kick down, it seems to change around the 6k mark iirc (Will check next time). Foot flat to the floor, it changes around 6.6k.

[Kevin Wood]

I think if I’m giving it as much throttle as I can without pressing the kick down, it seems to change around the 6k mark iirc (Will check next time). Foot flat to the floor, it changes around 6.6k.

If I've been driving "miss daisy" mine changes up at about 3-3.5k with throttle just above the kickdown. Does depend on rate of change of throttle position, too. A gentle squeeze to full throttle and it'll only change down on a hill, or if it's at sub-2k rpm or so. Open the throttle with more urgency and it'll slip into the next lower gear straight away.

As I say, after towing for a while this all goes to pot for a few tens of miles after unhitching. It will change down much earlier in anticipation.

Kevin

[Ian_D]

Interesting Kevin!

I tried this morning, car was in 2nd, as much throttle as I could without activating kickdown switch...

Was still pulling at around 5250rpm, had to lift off as I was running out of road!

Can’t understand why its changing so high, as 95% of the driving ive been doing lately has been sub 30mph through town.  :-?

[Kevin Wood]

Interesting Kevin!

I tried this morning, car was in 2nd, as much throttle as I could without activating kickdown switch...

Was still pulling at around 5250rpm, had to lift off as I was running out of road!

Can’t understand why its changing so high, as 95% of the driving ive been doing lately has been sub 30mph through town.  :-?

Will have to try it on mine. Thinking about it in the lower gears it probably does take it to 5k or so. :-/

Kevin

[Broomies Mate]

If it helps, mine will change at around 3-3.5k with the pedal resting on the kickdown switch.

I definitely dont drive like I have Miss Daisy in the back.



This is a 99 (T)  My 98 (R) was very VERY different.  I actually preferred it to be honest.  It did what you wanted it to do, not what it 'thought' you wanted it to do.

[Ian_D]

If it helps, mine will change at around 3-3.5k with the pedal resting on the kickdown switch.

I definitely dont drive like I have Miss Daisy in the back.



This is a 99 (T)  My 98 (R) was very VERY different.  I actually preferred it to be honest.  It did what you wanted it to do, not what it 'thought' you wanted it to do.

Maybe down to different software versions? Mines a 3.0 on an R plate (98).

[aaronjb]

If it helps, mine will change at around 3-3.5k with the pedal resting on the kickdown switch.

Mine (the 51 plate) is like that too (or seemed to be this morning)..

Must find a time when I can procure Kevin's TECH2 services for a gearbox update and other bits & bobs.

[cem_devecioglu]

If it helps, mine will change at around 3-3.5k with the pedal resting on the kickdown switch.

I definitely dont drive like I have Miss Daisy in the back.



This is a 99 (T)  My 98 (R) was very VERY different.  I actually preferred it to be honest.  It did what you wanted it to do, not what it 'thought' you wanted it to do.

I wish I could say the same.. nope.. yesterday I visited a gearbox specialist.. tested the car on the road and said nothing wrong with it.. but its stupid as usual..   and dont know about updates.. :-/