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[Dave Elite]

The guy next door has a problem with his fiesta 1.25 manual year 2000. So I told him I'd ask on here for some advice. The car is stuck in 3rd gear, and the gear lever is moving forward and back with no resistance. I've checked the linkage under the car and its all in order. The linkage moves in and out of the gearbox with no resistance. Is the gearbox fubared? thanks for any help.

[aaronjb]

Does sound like the shifter assembly (inside the gearbox) has come apart - if it's moving the shift rod in & out normally then it can really only be that..

Knowing gearboxes (as I don't, they scare the bejeezus out of me) it's probably some tiny little detent ball come adrift..

[Vauxdriver]

I know its rear wheeel drive but I had a similar problem a few years back in a granada. Turned out to be 3pence roll pin had sheared, had to remove box on RWD but if similar may be possible to do in situ in a FWD.

[Lazydocker]

I know its rear wheeel drive but I had a similar problem a few years back in a granada. Turned out to be 3pence roll pin had sheared, had to remove box on RWD but if similar may be possible to do in situ in a FWD.

Probably the same thing TBH. Can't remember if it's solid linkage with pins or cable on these though

[aaronjb]

I know its rear wheeel drive but I had a similar problem a few years back in a granada. Turned out to be 3pence roll pin had sheared, had to remove box on RWD but if similar may be possible to do in situ in a FWD.

Probably the same thing TBH. Can't remember if it's solid linkage with pins or cable on these though

I read Dave's message as saying that the gearbox end (the shift rod assembly) still moves in & out of the gearbox when you waggle the stick, though..

Although if he meant that it moves at that end fine, but he hadn't had A.N.Other person waggle the stick, it could just be a roll pin in the gear lever assembly .. which would be easier!

[Vauxdriver]

I know its rear wheeel drive but I had a similar problem a few years back in a granada. Turned out to be 3pence roll pin had sheared, had to remove box on RWD but if similar may be possible to do in situ in a FWD.

Probably the same thing TBH. Can't remember if it's solid linkage with pins or cable on these though

I read Dave's message as saying that the gearbox end (the shift rod assembly) still moves in & out of the gearbox when you waggle the stick, though..

Although if he meant that it moves at that end fine, but he hadn't had A.N.Other person waggle the stick, it could just be a roll pin in the gear lever assembly .. which would be easier!

On the Granada the roll pin was inside the box, where the selector rod went forward from the lever into the box. Just had to remove the top plate as I recall, drive out broken pin, drive in new pin, all sorted.

And the symptons where lever moved very freely, and the linkage all appeared to be good, removed top cover and the roll pin was obvious. My luck was it broke when changinf from 1st to 2nd gear and I was stuck in neutral. If it had stuck in a gear at least I could have driven it home 

HTH

[Dave Elite]

I know its rear wheeel drive but I had a similar problem a few years back in a granada. Turned out to be 3pence roll pin had sheared, had to remove box on RWD but if similar may be possible to do in situ in a FWD.

Probably the same thing TBH. Can't remember if it's solid linkage with pins or cable on these though

Its a solid linkage on this fiesta, two metal poles running to the gearbox. It all moves backwards and farwards as it should just with no resistance or gear change. The car still drives if you start it with the clutch down and drive it in 3rd gear.

[Dave Elite]

I know its rear wheeel drive but I had a similar problem a few years back in a granada. Turned out to be 3pence roll pin had sheared, had to remove box on RWD but if similar may be possible to do in situ in a FWD.

Probably the same thing TBH. Can't remember if it's solid linkage with pins or cable on these though

I read Dave's message as saying that the gearbox end (the shift rod assembly) still moves in & out of the gearbox when you waggle the stick, though..

Although if he meant that it moves at that end fine, but he hadn't had A.N.Other person waggle the stick, it could just be a roll pin in the gear lever assembly .. which would be easier!

On the Granada the roll pin was inside the box, where the selector rod went forward from the lever into the box. Just had to remove the top plate as I recall, drive out broken pin, drive in new pin, all sorted.

And the symptons where lever moved very freely, and the linkage all appeared to be good, removed top cover and the roll pin was obvious. My luck was it broke when changinf from 1st to 2nd gear and I was stuck in neutral. If it had stuck in a gear at least I could have driven it home 

HTH

Yes thanks, it sounds the same. Do you know if the fiesta gearbox can be dimantled/cover lifted in situe? or even if it has a cover?

[Vauxdriver]

I know its rear wheeel drive but I had a similar problem a few years back in a granada. Turned out to be 3pence roll pin had sheared, had to remove box on RWD but if similar may be possible to do in situ in a FWD.

Probably the same thing TBH. Can't remember if it's solid linkage with pins or cable on these though

I read Dave's message as saying that the gearbox end (the shift rod assembly) still moves in & out of the gearbox when you waggle the stick, though..

Although if he meant that it moves at that end fine, but he hadn't had A.N.Other person waggle the stick, it could just be a roll pin in the gear lever assembly .. which would be easier!

On the Granada the roll pin was inside the box, where the selector rod went forward from the lever into the box. Just had to remove the top plate as I recall, drive out broken pin, drive in new pin, all sorted.

And the symptons where lever moved very freely, and the linkage all appeared to be good, removed top cover and the roll pin was obvious. My luck was it broke when changinf from 1st to 2nd gear and I was stuck in neutral. If it had stuck in a gear at least I could have driven it home 

HTH

Yes thanks, it sounds the same. Do you know if the fiesta gearbox can be dimantled/cover lifted in situe? or even if it has a cover?

Sorry but my knowledge of FWD boxes is very limited. I would think the part where the linkage enters the box would be removeable though.

[henryd]

No access to linkage without taking box out and splitting it

[Dave Elite]

No access to linkage without taking box out and splitting it

Is that specific to the fiesta 1.25 gearbox? east job?

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yep, gearbox out and not so easy on them either.

Had to do one recently when the clutch pressure plate return spring snapped (common).

So, change the clucth whilst its out!

[Dave Elite]

Yep, gearbox out and not so easy on them either.

Had to do one recently when the clutch pressure plate return spring snapped (common).

So, change the clucth whilst its out!

Have you heared of this happening before Mark? What do think its likley to be causing it?

[Marks DTM Calib]

Yep, gearbox out and not so easy on them either.

Had to do one recently when the clutch pressure plate return spring snapped (common).

So, change the clucth whilst its out!

Have you heared of this happening before Mark? What do think its likley to be causing it?

Yes, part of the selector setup sheers off. Easiest to just fit a second hand box

[Dave Elite]

Yep, gearbox out and not so easy on them either.

Had to do one recently when the clutch pressure plate return spring snapped (common).

So, change the clucth whilst its out!

Have you heared of this happening before Mark? What do think its likley to be causing it?

Yes, part of the selector setup sheers off. Easiest to just fit a second hand box

Ok thanks Mark, I've looked on ebay and there not too dear. I think we'll do that. Thanks for all the advice