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[holey head]

hi there

i'm an electrician in training, and sorry to say but even  if you get qualifications you will not be able to just walk into a job that pays 30k, you have NO EXPERIENCE!!!!! one of the governing bodies is the
NIC EIC, another is the ECA <eca set up nic but now nic rule most> your best bet is to get in with a company that will train you and send you on courses. thats what i did, i've been working as an electrician now for 4 years but have recently changed company and they sending me to college.


good luck, you will need it!!!

[omegabeast]

If i got my qualifications then i wouldnt need to go to college afte would i surely?

Im not expecting to just walk straight into a job but i think a 25k a year job as a newbie electrician cant be that hard urely?

Matt

[holey head]

If i got my qualifications then i wouldnt need to go to college afte would i surely?

Im not expecting to just walk straight into a job but i think a 25k a year job as a newbie electrician cant be that hard urely?

Matt

hi

will be hard sorry to say as you have NO EXPERIENCE. the courses you were talking about earlier are for "wannabe's" or as college tutor said "two bit wannabe sparks" yes they might give you the qualifications but not experience. thats what employers want. if i came to you asking for a job, you asked what qual's i'd got i said then next thing is previous jobs and experience!!!!!!!

sorry toput dampners on things but also if you came to work in my house and i found out you had only been doing it a week i wouldn't be happy and would ask company for a more experienced person. sorry. get some experience behind you and you will be fine. first course you should do is your 16th edition! this is your reg's and you need it before you can do anything else!!!

[omegabeast]

Its the normal case of you cant get experience without gaining experience , you cant gain experience without getting a job that they wont give you as you dont have experience?!?! , lol

I know why there is such a shortage then. To be honest if someone was qualified it wouldnt matter a single bit to me , but thats me.

Matt

[TheBoy]

My brother knows of a lot of half decent sparkies applying for £20k jobs, so walking in to £25k with no experience may not be easy I'm afraid

Obviously location will make a difference, eg London I would expect better pay...

[Golfbuddy]

Hi,

Ive seena few places that do the c&g in 10 weeks full time. So i have worked out it would take me roughly 20 weeks to get all the qualifications i need to get a cscs card, fully qualified with 16th edition.

Matt

Matt, as I think most people here are saying, you are not going to walk into a job earning a fully skilled man's rate after doing a couple of college courses and applying for a cscs card.

I stand to be corrected but there used to be a 3 to 4 year apprenticeship for electricians before you could be considered to be fully trained and even then you would not be earning top whack for a few years after that.

20 weeks is less than 6 months and I don't believe any employer would entertain employing someone who had virtually no actual experience except on a trainee basis.

As others have said, don't want to p*ss on your bonfire but you have to learn to walk before you can run.  

[Entwood]

The idea that you can just walk in to a skilled job on craftsmans wages after minimum training is symptomatic of many folks these days

Without trying to start an argument or be rude ...   look at it this way ....

If you were an employer, would you take on an unknown, untried, inexperienced person with barely minimum qualifications and pay him top rate and allow him to work unsupervised ??

NO!!

You would pay a lower wage as you would have to pay an experienced person to guide and mentor whilst the newbie learns .. so actually your costs would rise.

It's not rocket science .. it's common sense ...

[Baron Von Spongebob]

Ive been reading this post with interest but it has scuppered my plans..

I was thinking of doing a home computer course on Brain surgery..Are you telling me i wont get a top job after ive passed..

Gutted..

Its the same with every job..Without experience they dont want to know...How do you get experience...
catch 66...

[Golfbuddy]

Ive been reading this post with interest but it has scuppered my plans..

I was thinking of doing a home computer course on Brain surgery..Are you telling me i wont get a top job after ive passed..

Gutted..

Its the same with every job..Without experience they dont want to know...How do you get experience...
catch 66...

Don't worry about the computer course Spongebob. I know a bloke who's got a mate down the pub who is looking for a trainee brain surgeon. Let me know if you're still interested and I'll line you up with an interview.

At the end of the day, it's not what you know........

 

[Entwood]

Its the same with every job..Without experience they dont want to know...How do you get experience...
catch 66...

You usually work for well less than the "going" rate, do all the sh****y jobs, but learn all the time. Then once you have proved your ability you get "promoted" to normal rates of pay ... used to be called "working your time in" or "working probation"

[Golfbuddy]

Ive been reading this post with interest but it has scuppered my plans..

I was thinking of doing a home computer course on Brain surgery..Are you telling me i wont get a top job after ive passed..

Gutted..

Its the same with every job..Without experience they dont want to know...How do you get experience...
catch 66...

Oh yeh, and is 'catch 66' three times more frustrating than 'catch 22'?  

[Baron Von Spongebob]

Ive been reading this post with interest but it has scuppered my plans..

I was thinking of doing a home computer course on Brain surgery..Are you telling me i wont get a top job after ive passed..

Gutted..

Its the same with every job..Without experience they dont want to know...How do you get experience...
catch 66...

Oh yeh, and is 'catch 66' three times more frustrating than 'catch 22'?  

Spotted the delibirate mistake then.. Sorry Golfbuddy but i was writing while i was driving down Route 33..

[Golfbuddy]

Ive been reading this post with interest but it has scuppered my plans..

I was thinking of doing a home computer course on Brain surgery..Are you telling me i wont get a top job after ive passed..

Gutted..

Its the same with every job..Without experience they dont want to know...How do you get experience...
catch 66...

Oh yeh, and is 'catch 66' three times more frustrating than 'catch 22'?  

Spotted the delibirate mistake then.. Sorry Golfbuddy but i was writing while i was driving down Route 33..

I know how you like to keep us on our toes.  

Oh, and thats 800 posts. Need to organise another meet to keep up with my recent rate.