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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #45 on: 06 November 2007, 20:39:42 »

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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

I can say similiar for SQL Server..Really powerful ..Can be scaled from a weak laptop to a many cpu enterprise level server..

And everything works the same except the speed..And have every critical tool for sensitive high load db environments..
Yup, SQL Server is an excellent database server, but is up against the almighty (if somewhat buggy) Oracle.  Not much else in that class until you get to the mainframe stuff...

Been using also Oracle Xi but never practical like SQL server and never programmer friendly ..hate it.May be I use too much microsoft tools
I actually like SQL Server, but I mostly support Solaris and Linux systems, hence Oracle is the DB we tend to have installed on the stuff I look after.

Fortunately, do have some Windows servers with SQL Server on, just to keep my sanity!
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #46 on: 06 November 2007, 20:43:04 »

And one old story from past I remember I beat programmers from IBM mainframe (when I was working in a bank Data center) in Transaction rates with a small server and and little efficient code.. Key : I was reading total the data into huge matrix in memory and calculating the per branch monetary analysis.  ;D  they were too much upset when the bank coordinator see the timings.They loose the project. 8-)
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #47 on: 06 November 2007, 21:24:01 »

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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

I can say similiar for SQL Server..Really powerful ..Can be scaled from a weak laptop to a many cpu enterprise level server..

And everything works the same except the speed..And have every critical tool for sensitive high load db environments..
Yup, SQL Server is an excellent database server, but is up against the almighty (if somewhat buggy) Oracle.  Not much else in that class until you get to the mainframe stuff...

Been using also Oracle Xi but never practical like SQL server and never programmer friendly ..hate it.May be I use too much microsoft tools
I actually like SQL Server, but I mostly support Solaris and Linux systems, hence Oracle is the DB we tend to have installed on the stuff I look after.

Fortunately, do have some Windows servers with SQL Server on, just to keep my sanity!

I like Advantage Database Server, very reliable, very quick and runs on all PC servers
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #48 on: 06 November 2007, 21:30:42 »

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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

I can say similiar for SQL Server..Really powerful ..Can be scaled from a weak laptop to a many cpu enterprise level server..

And everything works the same except the speed..And have every critical tool for sensitive high load db environments..
Yup, SQL Server is an excellent database server, but is up against the almighty (if somewhat buggy) Oracle.  Not much else in that class until you get to the mainframe stuff...

Been using also Oracle Xi but never practical like SQL server and never programmer friendly ..hate it.May be I use too much microsoft tools
I actually like SQL Server, but I mostly support Solaris and Linux systems, hence Oracle is the DB we tend to have installed on the stuff I look after.

Fortunately, do have some Windows servers with SQL Server on, just to keep my sanity!

I like Advantage Database Server, very reliable, very quick and runs on all PC servers
Is that the old Sybase one?  Did they ever get it to work properly on proper servers?  Also, IA32 only iirc - bit limited in this day and age (may have moved on recently, so apologies if I'm behind the times).
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #49 on: 06 November 2007, 22:42:24 »

It was developed by Extended Systems, who were bought by Sybase

It uses DBFs rather than one giant file.

Very quick

Available on Netware, NT and Penguin OS
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #50 on: 07 November 2007, 12:06:28 »

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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

Exchange does have the whole collaboration etc thing pretty well sewn up, but as a pure e-mail server I hate it. It's typical MS-esque in that it takes a long-established protocol but does it in its own way, meaning it only really works well with Outlook (well in the world of MS there is only one e-mail client in the world...). Its IMAP support is rather crap, and it has an uncanny ability to screw up the plain text portion of e-mails... yet another example of the philosophy of "everything is a web page" that MS adopted in the mid 90s after missing the boat that is the internet.

Never tried Exchange 2007.... not sure if we have it available via MSDN. I'd expect so but I haven't checked the list for a while.

Incidentally I can get both SQL Server and Oracle for free (non-commercial use obviously), but I can't really be bothered! I have Postgres running on my server box at home which does very little (stores my music database info via Amarok to make it accessible to web-enabled apps etc, and some other very minor things, way overkill really).
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #51 on: 07 November 2007, 18:15:53 »

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It uses DBFs rather than one giant file.

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Available on Netware, NT and Penguin OS
Never see it in the benchmarks, always MS' SQL v Oracle's Oracle which appear to be fastest RDBMS for midrange platforms.
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #52 on: 07 November 2007, 18:23:59 »

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Rather you than me working with Exchange et al. ;)

Good luck with the interview :)
Exchange is actually quite a good email system, and 2007 in particular has some fantastic tools.  It truely does tell you what is wrong when it doesn't work now.  Mega reliable, but now (with 2007) less suitable for small workgroup servers due to resource requirements (as with most current integrated communications systems).  Does now scale up much better.

For a typical corporate mail system, its hard to beat, and hence why market leader in this market.

Exchange does have the whole collaboration etc thing pretty well sewn up, but as a pure e-mail server I hate it. It's typical MS-esque in that it takes a long-established protocol but does it in its own way, meaning it only really works well with Outlook (well in the world of MS there is only one e-mail client in the world...). Its IMAP support is rather crap, and it has an uncanny ability to screw up the plain text portion of e-mails... yet another example of the philosophy of "everything is a web page" that MS adopted in the mid 90s after missing the boat that is the internet.

Never tried Exchange 2007.... not sure if we have it available via MSDN. I'd expect so but I haven't checked the list for a while.

Incidentally I can get both SQL Server and Oracle for free (non-commercial use obviously), but I can't really be bothered! I have Postgres running on my server box at home which does very little (stores my music database info via Amarok to make it accessible to web-enabled apps etc, and some other very minor things, way overkill really).
Yup, Exchange aimed at business use, so POP3/IMAP is unsuitable.  Both POP3 and IMAP work OK on Exchange, but for pure 'isp' type email, Exchange is too expensive.  OWA is really the only reason to use Exchange in a reseller type environment, as most webmail systems, inc Squirellmail that we use at OOF, are poor by comparison.

SQL Server Express is free, and more than adequate for small scale stuff. Lacks big database support, and any useful replication options, otherwise the same as real SQL Server.  And can be used commercially ;)

Nought wrong with overkill. Never played much with postgresql, always seem to go down the mysql route on linux.
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #53 on: 07 November 2007, 18:31:16 »

New version of MS SQL Server (2008 -Katmai)  supports  64 CPUs ..

Going past in the time even SQL Server 2000 was capable of handling more transactions than the worlds biggest banks transaction rates if I remember correctly..

Anyway Oracle have an advantage of working on High TPS Unix platforms that have 90-100 Cpus..

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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #54 on: 07 November 2007, 18:49:41 »

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It was developed by Extended Systems, who were bought by Sybase

It uses DBFs rather than one giant file.

Very quick

Available on Netware, NT and Penguin OS
Never see it in the benchmarks, always MS' SQL v Oracle's Oracle which appear to be fastest RDBMS for midrange platforms.


Seen someone claiming that their app was over 200 times quicker with ADS than MSSQL on same hardware.

Had a play with a 2.5 million line order file today, huge site in Yorkshire, wanted to know how much made this year and how much was over 40kg.

File was too big to use non ADS drivers, the Clipper standard DBF driver choaked on a copy so I used an ADS enabled proggy on live data.

As to servers one of our customers is replacing a three year old Netware box with a new Netware box, I think we have 3 or 4 on Netware now.



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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #55 on: 07 November 2007, 19:10:12 »

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It was developed by Extended Systems, who were bought by Sybase

It uses DBFs rather than one giant file.

Very quick

Available on Netware, NT and Penguin OS
Never see it in the benchmarks, always MS' SQL v Oracle's Oracle which appear to be fastest RDBMS for midrange platforms.


Seen someone claiming that their app was over 200 times quicker with ADS than MSSQL on same hardware.

Had a play with a 2.5 million line order file today, huge site in Yorkshire, wanted to know how much made this year and how much was over 40kg.

File was too big to use non ADS drivers, the Clipper standard DBF driver choaked on a copy so I used an ADS enabled proggy on live data.

As to servers one of our customers is replacing a three year old Netware box with a new Netware box, I think we have 3 or 4 on Netware now.




Sorry what means "ADS"  abbreviation  ?
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #56 on: 07 November 2007, 19:48:31 »

Advantage Database Server
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Re: Technical assessment tomorrow
« Reply #57 on: 07 November 2007, 19:54:08 »

Whatever your are comfortable with and suits your needs its OK for you  :y

In my organization they pay 1 million US $ for a SAP project.Loads of s***.Working slow.. Instead we could simply write it with .NET just in a salary cost
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