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bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« on: 12 May 2009, 17:20:52 »

hi all

I NEED HELP PLEASE I GOT ADVICE FROM YOU GUYS ABOUT A CUTTING OUT PROBLEM AND IT WAS THE AIR BLEEDER THING (REAL COMMON PROBLEM)
BUT I SNAPPED THE BOLT WHEN DOING IT UP AS I STILL HAD A LEAK FROM THE BANJO JOINT.

WHAT DO I DO NOW PLEASE AS I CANT DRIVE IT OR MOVE IT.

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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #1 on: 12 May 2009, 19:12:22 »

Don't SHOUT mate, please :o
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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #2 on: 12 May 2009, 19:18:38 »

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hi all

I NEED HELP PLEASE I GOT ADVICE FROM YOU GUYS ABOUT A CUTTING OUT PROBLEM AND IT WAS THE AIR BLEEDER THING (REAL COMMON PROBLEM)
BUT I SNAPPED THE BOLT WHEN DOING IT UP AS I STILL HAD A LEAK FROM THE BANJO JOINT.

WHAT DO I DO NOW PLEASE AS I CANT DRIVE IT OR MOVE IT.


Any 4 pot owners shed any light on this problem?  :-? :-?
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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #3 on: 12 May 2009, 19:23:12 »

You'll probably find that you let the sealing washer slip off
the land next to the manifold, that's why I warned to watch
for this in the guide, and then deformed it when tightening.

You will need a new Jet and sealing washers from a scrappy
or from someone on here who deals in used/ new spares.

In the meantime, see if the water hoses will remove from the
banjo easily without breaking. If so, join them together with
a piece of tubing, either internally and use the existing clips,
or externally and use a larger pair of jubilee clips.
This will allow you to drive the car without losing coolant.

The old Jet should remove easily, if you've sheared the end
off it there will be no torque to overcome. Either use a screw
extractor as in this link

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/20084/Van-Car-Accessories/Mechanics-Tools/Stud-Extractor-Set-8-Pc

or try wedging a tapered dumpy screwdriver in the remains
and see if it will turn it out. Don't do this if there is any chance
of damaging the inlet manifold thread (the bit that the Jet screws
into)

When you do it next time, ensure the sealing washers are
correctly positioned on the lands of the Jet.

« Last Edit: 12 May 2009, 19:25:42 by Grumpy »
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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #4 on: 12 May 2009, 21:50:11 »

thanks to all who helped with this task i have souced a new inlet manifold and breather jet.
and will fit at weekend ,

CAN I DRIVE CAR LIKE THIS IF I JOIN BANJO PIPES TOGETHER AS GRUMPY SAID .
WHAT IMPLECATIONS DOES IT HAVE WITH THE BREATHER JET NOT ATTACHED AS BROKEN IN HOLE
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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #5 on: 12 May 2009, 22:12:12 »

If the Jet has sheared inside the manifold then you will no longer
have the 1.6mm restriction. This will result in the engine sucking
in a large amount of unmetered air downstream of the MAF.
You would therefore need to block the hole prior to running the
engine which would just put you back to where you were with
the originally blocked Jet. Don't block it with anything that could
get sucked through!!!

If you can't remove the water pipes from the Banjo without
damaging them, consider leaving them attached and blank
off the Banjo with a couple of drilled metal plates and a nut and
bolt. You will need to make a couple of seals for the plate
(possibly a couple of circles made out of an old bicycle inner
tube?) and wrap the ends of the bolt and nut with some PTFE
tape. You can make the plates out of the cut-off bottoms
of a couple of baked bean tins.

This is just a temporary 'get you home' bodge whilst you wait
for your parts, not an engineering masterpiece.  :)
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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #6 on: 12 May 2009, 22:29:26 »

GRUMPY YOU ARE A MASTER AT WORK

IT IS SHEARED OF LEVEL WITH THE MANIFOLD SO COULD QUITE EASY BLOCK HOLE OFF.
REGARDING BANJO PIPES,WHY ARE THEY LIKE THIS BUT WILL JOIN TOGETHER LIKE YOU SAID.
WILL IT TAKE A LONG TIME TO FIT NEW INLET MANIFOLD TO CAR AND IS THERE ANY TIPS FOR IT.

IF ANY MEMBERS WANT TO LEND A HAND AND EARN AN EGG AND BACON SANDWICH FEEL FREE TO REPLY AS A NOVICE WITH THIS KIND OF THING.
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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #7 on: 12 May 2009, 22:54:58 »

You will find it a lot easier to remove the broken Jet than
change the manifold. It should come out fairly easily
as there will be no torque loading on it as it's sheared
off and you've already removed any 'stiction' when you
took it out for cleaning.

You won't even have to drill it to use the screw extractor, it's
already drilled right through for you by Vauxhall  :)

If you decide to change the manifold, I'll lay odds that on
Saturday afternoon you'll be on here asking how you can
remove a sheared inlet manifold stud.  :(
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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #8 on: 12 May 2009, 23:00:06 »

THATS GREAT FOR THE ADVICE .
I WILL WAIT TILL I GET ALL THE BITS AROUND ME THEN DECIDE WHAT TO DO,
I HAVE RAC COMING OUT IN THE MORNING TO GET CAR HOME JUST SO I DONT BREAK ANTHING ELSE AS I LOVE MY CAR

WATCH THIS SPACE YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT.

THANKS AGAIN
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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #9 on: 12 May 2009, 23:07:01 »

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THATS GREAT FOR THE ADVICE .
I WILL WAIT TILL I GET ALL THE BITS AROUND ME THEN DECIDE WHAT TO DO,
I HAVE RAC COMING OUT IN THE MORNING TO GET CAR HOME JUST SO I DONT BREAK ANTHING ELSE AS I LOVE MY CAR

WATCH THIS SPACE YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT.

THANKS AGAIN

PS take your 'Caps Lock' off please ....... we're not deaf! :y  :y  :y  ;)
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Re: bolt snapped doing icva bleeder
« Reply #10 on: 12 May 2009, 23:11:25 »

sorry didnt think about that.

thanks for advice    

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