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2.5 diesel wont start
« on: 17 July 2009, 10:36:19 »

taking the kids to school this morning and my 2-5 diesel just stopped.got towed home and still cant find the proplem
engine spins on starter motor as normal
theres fuel at the injectores

going to change the fuel filter later but i dont really think its that wondering if its something electrical????
any ideas?

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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #1 on: 17 July 2009, 10:42:46 »

is fuel low?
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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #2 on: 17 July 2009, 11:23:35 »

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is fuel low?

no about 30 liters in
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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #3 on: 17 July 2009, 15:58:13 »

well have now changed the fuel filter and it still wont start
think its time 4 a beer
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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #4 on: 18 July 2009, 11:20:52 »

well charged the battery up over night so its fully charged and it still wont start

any ideas???
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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #5 on: 18 July 2009, 11:34:08 »

i know bad starting can be due to leak-off pipes.
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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #6 on: 19 July 2009, 00:38:47 »

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i know bad starting can be due to leak-off pipes.

 are leak of pipes  the link pipes on the injectores?
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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #7 on: 19 July 2009, 08:18:43 »

if it slowly stuttered to a halt its fuel,
 if it just stopped dead then its something else!!

you say there is fuel at the injectors?
which the stop solenoid would stop happening so it cant be that,

quick test time then!!

pull the air intake hose off the airfilter box, so you can see into the big black pipe, get someone to turn the key while you squirt brake cleaner or maintenance spray into the pipe, keep going with both till the engine fires on the maintenace spray, it will knock loudly but it will run on it, when it fires see if it will run on its own , if it doesnt repeat the spraying and starting  3 more times each time seeing if it will run,
whole point of this is two things
1 it will tell you if the engine is ok(chains timing etc)
2 this will allow the pump to turn a lot faster when it fires than you can on the starter, and if the on tank pump is not pulling fuel the injector pump will by firing it on the maintenance spray,
let  us know how it goes!1 bad news is if it dont fire up this way its something deeper than fuel problem!!

p.s reason for the repaeat three more times is this is usually how many times it takes to fill the fuel filter and fire it up!!
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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #8 on: 19 July 2009, 11:16:19 »

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if it slowly stuttered to a halt its fuel,
 if it just stopped dead then its something else!!

you say there is fuel at the injectors?
which the stop solenoid would stop happening so it cant be that,

quick test time then!!

pull the air intake hose off the airfilter box, so you can see into the big black pipe, get someone to turn the key while you squirt brake cleaner or maintenance spray into the pipe, keep going with both till the engine fires on the maintenace spray, it will knock loudly but it will run on it, when it fires see if it will run on its own , if it doesnt repeat the spraying and starting  3 more times each time seeing if it will run,
whole point of this is two things
1 it will tell you if the engine is ok(chains timing etc)
2 this will allow the pump to turn a lot faster when it fires than you can on the starter, and if the on tank pump is not pulling fuel the injector pump will by firing it on the maintenance spray,
let  us know how it goes!1 bad news is if it dont fire up this way its something deeper than fuel problem!!

p.s reason for the repaeat three more times is this is usually how many times it takes to fill the fuel filter and fire it up!!


hi thanks for this it solved the proplem but not with your info[but if i hadnt checked id still be stuck so big thanks]
when i took the air box apart i found that the air filter had been sucked into the air pipe blocking the air flow. i dont no if the filter had somehow got damaged as ive never seen this before and the filter was still quite clean.been and got a new filter from halfords fitted it and car started first time.been for a drive and and a quick motorway blast and everything is fine.checked new filter and it hasnt moved,and no signs of anything bad going on e.g no deforming ,no oil in air box
any ideas why this happened?
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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #9 on: 19 July 2009, 13:13:42 »

guessing wrong filter fitted or incorrectly fitted.
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Re: 2.5 diesel wont start
« Reply #10 on: 19 July 2009, 14:27:19 »

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guessing wrong filter fitted or incorrectly fitted.

no filter was the right one been in about 8 monthes,dont really no how it could have been incorrectly fitted
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