Omega Owners Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

Please play nicely.  No one wants to listen/read a keyboard warriors rants....

Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Down

Author Topic: Aargh crap....  (Read 2593 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 107008
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #15 on: 04 April 2010, 16:57:30 »

Quote
:-[ Its that bit which gets me really, i am confident enough to strip everything else down. When mine goes will have a bash myself  :)
Do it that way, nought to go wrong ;)
Logged
Grumpy old man

JamesV6CDX

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gloucestershire/Buckinghamshire
  • Posts: 16640
    • Omega 3.2 Retail MV6 LPG
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #16 on: 04 April 2010, 17:42:12 »

Email sent...

As per email - what rotton luck!

If when you turned it over, water was coming out of no4 cylinder, it points  to a rather  spectacular head gasket failure!

Not uncommon on 2.2...

And yes, I am happy to assist  :y
Logged

Kiksomass

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Northampton
  • Posts: 185
  • Its all about the bass!
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #17 on: 04 April 2010, 18:41:21 »

Quote
Email sent...

As per email - what rotton luck!

If when you turned it over, water was coming out of no4 cylinder, it points  to a rather  spectacular head gasket failure!

Not uncommon on 2.2...

And yes, I am happy to assist  :y
James you're a star!Anyway,started to strip down and found a little mayo in breathers but no where near what I thought I'd find.I'm guessing more water to cylinder than water to oil where the break in the gasket has occured. I'm out of my depth a bit now though. Cambelt still on,exhaust manifold still on and throttle area still on. Camshafts exposed and lots of fresh oil sitting there. Dunno where TDC is,but I've got all the cam lobes as horizontal as poss and while manually cranking it feels more free.Without a Haynes manual I'm not going much further. Chicken!! :-[ ::) :D
Logged
Growing old is inevitable....growing up is OPTIONAL!

JamesV6CDX

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gloucestershire/Buckinghamshire
  • Posts: 16640
    • Omega 3.2 Retail MV6 LPG
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #18 on: 04 April 2010, 19:11:11 »

I've replied to your email mate :)

I have no doubt we can sort it. Was there any white smoke? Or smell of fuel, in the expansion tank?

I am off out with the dogs for a bit, but should be able to check messages again by 10pm  :y

Logged

charlie

  • Senior Member
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • sunderland
  • Posts: 630
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #19 on: 04 April 2010, 19:23:48 »

pm on route
Logged

JamesV6CDX

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gloucestershire/Buckinghamshire
  • Posts: 16640
    • Omega 3.2 Retail MV6 LPG
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #20 on: 04 April 2010, 20:40:29 »

Back - a bit early.
Was too dark for long walkies!

Email sent G.
Logged

Clouseau

  • Junior Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Telford
  • Posts: 134
  • Keeping the dream alive...
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #21 on: 05 April 2010, 09:40:02 »

You wil need a decent torque wrench, that will accurately give you an 8NM torque (although as I recall the lowest torque quoted is a 6NM).  I already had a half inch drive T/Wrench but it wouldn't go anywhere near that low. Ended up buying a £50 3/4 drive from halfords which I have to say is an excellent tool.  You can't mess about with aluminium heads!

Be prepared for a looooong job!  That's why the dealership prices are prohibitive.  Aim for a day to strip down and a day to put back together and as already stated the key to success is to be methodical. Take lots of photos, list what you are doing. Don't forget to add antifreeze, oil and filter to the HG gasket kit on your shopping list. Good luck; it isn't too difficult but hugely satisfying when it's all back together again and fires up on the first turn of the key :y
« Last Edit: 05 April 2010, 10:31:32 by rjlangton »
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 107008
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #22 on: 05 April 2010, 10:34:30 »

Quote
You wil need a decent torque wrench, that will accurately give you an 8NM torque (although as I recall the lowest torque quoted is a 6NM).  I already had a half inch drive T/Wrench but it wouldn't go anywhere near that low. Ended up buying a £50 3/4 drive from halfords which I have to say is an excellent tool.  You can't mess about with aluminium heads!

Be prepared for a looooong job!  That's why the dealership prices are prohibitive.  Aim for a day to strip down and a day to put back together and as already stated the key to success is to be methodical. Take lots of photos, list what you are doing. Don't forget to add antifreeze, oil and filter to the HG gasket kit on your shopping list. Good luck; it isn't too difficult but hugely satisfying when it's all back together again and fires up on the first turn of the key :y
I have that very same torque wrench myself, and would recommend it.  Its £40 to those who have access to Halfords trade.  Much better than the Seeley one I used to use.
Logged
Grumpy old man

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37573
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #23 on: 05 April 2010, 10:35:54 »

i have both 8-60Nm & 60-300Nm Halfords ones, got them on Trade, found them excellent  :y
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 107008
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #24 on: 05 April 2010, 10:38:11 »

Quote
i have both 8-60Nm & 60-300Nm Halfords ones, got them on Trade, found them excellent  :y
THats the big bertha (£50 trade) isn't it?  Are you strong enough to use it :o
Logged
Grumpy old man

tunnie

  • Get A Life!!
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Surrey
  • Posts: 37573
    • Zafira Tourer & BMW 435i
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #25 on: 05 April 2010, 10:42:28 »

Quote
Quote
i have both 8-60Nm & 60-300Nm Halfords ones, got them on Trade, found them excellent  :y
THats the big bertha (£50 trade) isn't it?  Are you strong enough to use it :o

Only ever gone up to 110Nm for wheel nuts, thats a bit of a struggle  ;D
Logged

JamesV6CDX

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gloucestershire/Buckinghamshire
  • Posts: 16640
    • Omega 3.2 Retail MV6 LPG
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #26 on: 05 April 2010, 12:35:13 »

Quote
Quote
You wil need a decent torque wrench, that will accurately give you an 8NM torque (although as I recall the lowest torque quoted is a 6NM).  I already had a half inch drive T/Wrench but it wouldn't go anywhere near that low. Ended up buying a £50 3/4 drive from halfords which I have to say is an excellent tool.  You can't mess about with aluminium heads!

Be prepared for a looooong job!  That's why the dealership prices are prohibitive.  Aim for a day to strip down and a day to put back together and as already stated the key to success is to be methodical. Take lots of photos, list what you are doing. Don't forget to add antifreeze, oil and filter to the HG gasket kit on your shopping list. Good luck; it isn't too difficult but hugely satisfying when it's all back together again and fires up on the first turn of the key :y
I have that very same torque wrench myself, and would recommend it.  Its £40 to those who have access to Halfords trade.  Much better than the Seeley one I used to use.

Likewise,  I have that torquewrench  too

Having done lots before, I reckon I can do this job in a (long) day

The only obsticle would be if the head was found to be warped - as the job would then be held up while it goes off for machining..
Logged

TheBoy

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Brackley, Northants
  • Posts: 107008
  • I Like Lockdown
    • Whatever Starts
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #27 on: 05 April 2010, 12:42:28 »

Quote
Having done lots before, I reckon I can do this job in a (long) day
Doable if no snags I reckon :y


Reminds me, I really must do the HG on the Rover again ;D.  Ever changed an oil rail on one before?
Logged
Grumpy old man

JamesV6CDX

  • Omega Queen
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gloucestershire/Buckinghamshire
  • Posts: 16640
    • Omega 3.2 Retail MV6 LPG
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #28 on: 05 April 2010, 12:49:54 »

Quote
Quote
Having done lots before, I reckon I can do this job in a (long) day
Doable if no snags I reckon :y


My thinking too. Hopefully I can get the old girl sorted this coming weekend..

Quote
Reminds me, I really must do the HG on the Rover again ;D.  Ever changed an oil rail on one before?

I'll give you a hand with that - it was a laugh last time :y

Looks quite accessible with sump off?

Logged

Kevin Wood

  • Global Moderator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Gender: Male
  • Alton, Hampshire
  • Posts: 36415
    • Jaguar XE 25t, Westfield
    • View Profile
Re: Aargh crap....
« Reply #29 on: 05 April 2010, 13:01:08 »

IIRC the oil rail has the main bearing caps built into it on the k series? Might be wrong. :-/

Kevin
Logged
Tech2 services currently available. See TheBoy's price list: http://theboy.omegaowners.com/
Pages: 1 [2]  All   Go Up
 

Page created in 0.033 seconds with 21 queries.