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can of worms
« on: 21 October 2010, 13:27:40 »

sorry to keep this subject coming but...... yesterday i had to get my mig tested for the paperwork to be completed, only the second time i've driven the car and i do feel it handles like sh**, o.k i'm stepping out of a 4wd mazda6 sport but the mig is very boaty!! and does not give me alot of confidence in cornering, i need to do both drop arms on the stabilisor bar (front) will that help alot? as when i go into a corner it feels o.k and then feels like it suddenly lurches! also would like to know i'm going to be putting eibach springs with bilstein b4's on it (once it'S got it's papers as doing so beforehand may jeopordise the process) will this be enough to tighten it up so it doesn'T roll around so much or should i be looking at poly bushes in the sway bars, any comments much appreciated :)
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Re: can of worms
« Reply #1 on: 21 October 2010, 13:49:03 »

Well, rest assured that you haven't made a bad choice and the Omega can be made to handle very well indeed. There are a few common issues that can contribute to it driving badly and they are well-discussed on here. Worth sorting on any "new to the OOF fold" car:

Check the front wishbone bushes
Check the steering idler arm and track rod ends for play
Check the rear subframe bushes for signs of play and generally falling apart.
Have the geometry properly setup by someone who knows the car. In particular, they tend to develop excessive negative camber on the front wheels which causes inner edge tyre wear.
Tyre choice and condition can have a big impact as well.
Many Omegas are getting to high mileages now so condition of shocks and springs should be assessed. In particular, springs breaking is not an uncommon problem.
Careful steering damper adjustment can help if the above still results in a car that wanders a bit.

Even once properly set up, the Omega still feels a relatively "soft" car. It simply doesn't have the rock-hard ride that you might be used to coming from a 4wd car. Chuck it into a corner and it should stick like the proverbial, though, with body roll reasonably well controlled. :y


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Re: can of worms
« Reply #2 on: 21 October 2010, 13:57:32 »

as Kevin stated miggies handling highly depends on cars condition..

if you want it to be stiffer like mazda you must use sports type springs , shocks and also good quality wide tires..

and a bit practising on an empty area with the accelerator pedal as its a rwd.. :y
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Re: can of worms
« Reply #3 on: 21 October 2010, 16:49:38 »

yes it has been a while since i've driven r.w.d and it may just need me to get used to it a bit before i have my confidence in it as for tyres they will be getting replaced as well with something a bit wider with a lower profile so that should atleast take some tyre roll out of it! idler arms e.t.c seem o.k but must check the wishbones as for geometry god knows where i will manage to get that set up as there is not many omega's over here and after lowering it's going to definately need someone competent, thanks for your replies as i wish to get this straight in my head before i shell out the reddies for the new suspension kit, by the way would the eibach springs be rated much harder than the standard as i don't mind a soft ride just not too soft that it compromises cornering!! when my wife is sitting next to me the car isn't allowed to dive into corners!! ;)
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Re: can of worms
« Reply #4 on: 21 October 2010, 18:03:32 »

Even with soft suspension, they can handle very well.  RWD will always have more body roll, as one of the advantages is you can get a better comfort/handling compromise.

I find the Elites with SL suspension are the first to break grip, usually at the back, but can still easily carry better speed than most FWD cars in a roundabout.

Personally, I think the MV6 is in a different class for handling, possibly a shade stiffer - but you have to be careful not to destroy ride comfort - esp if you do long trips (several hundred miles a day)
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